Goldikova to stay in training!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

While Blame walks away.

They should bring him back and campaign him like a champion. Which, to some people on this board, apparently means keeping him in restricted races on the same circuit all year.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

They should bring him back and campaign him like a champion. Which, to some people on this board, apparently means keeping him in restricted races on the same circuit all year.

Serious question...
With this pedigree,running style, and lowish beyers will there really be a big demand at stud for him? I thought for sure he would be back next year.

[Smooth Operator]

Excellent

Maybe they'll actually run her for the BIG money in classic distance contests (Arc, BCT) next fall … or bring her back over to see if she's top class on different surfaces (Met Mile) like that big Cali mare...

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Excellent

Maybe they'll actually run her for the BIG money in classic distance contests (Arc, BCT) next fall … or bring her back over to see if she's top class on different surfaces (Met Mile) like that big Cali mare...

The irony of a Zenyatta fan taking shots at Goldikova's campaigns is so comical my brain can't actually process it enough to laugh.

[Smooth Operator]

She's the GOAT, ateam … why not stick her in the biggest and richest races (Arc, BCT)???

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

She's the GOAT, ateam … why not stick her in the biggest and richest races (Arc, BCT)???

Well next year she's gonna be a SIX year old mare, so she should just run in a bunch of prep races and prepare for one big shot in November, right?

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Well next year she's gonna be a SIX year old mare, so she should just run in a bunch of prep races and prepare for one big shot in November, right?

No problem with that … as long as the big one in Nov for the GOAT is either the BCT or BCC...

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Well next year she's gonna be a SIX year old mare, so she should just run in a bunch of prep races and prepare for one big shot in November, right?

Actually, what she needs to do is ship down to GP and run some INFLATED figures to get you drooling, then REFUSE to get in the gate for the CLASSIC (No MAS). Then she could come back he next year, run some more fast figures against plugs, appearing to be a LOCK for the CLASSIC, and fall on her face yet again, with a lesser NO MAS version.

Or version B:

Get beat by the 2nd string in someone's barn, pull a NO MAS for a scheduled big race, get run down by the great Persistently and have all the NAZI Beyerites argue that she's still the best mare in the country. ha ha ha

I vote for the latter option.

Even the most obtuse have a 'feeling stupid yet?" point. Have we reached yours yet, Joey?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

She's the GOAT, ateam … why not stick her in the biggest and richest races (Arc, BCT)???

The Breeders Cup Turf? Look, I know you don't bet or really follow the sport but come on. The Mile this year was so much better than the Turf in terms of quality it's scary.

While we are at it though, by your line of thinking, I hope to see Zenyatta in the Dubai World Cup and Arc next year. Biggest and richest races, right?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The Breeders Cup Turf? Look, I know you don't bet or really follow the sport but come on. The Mile this year was so much better than the Turf in terms of quality it's scary.

While we are at it though, by your line of thinking, I hope to see Zenyatta in the Dubai World Cup and Arc next year. Biggest and richest races, right?

I expect Smooth Operator is looking forward to Goldikova and Zenyatta facing off in the Kentucky Derby next year.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The irony of a Zenyatta fan taking shots at Goldikova's campaigns is so comical my brain can't actually process it enough to laugh.

He is why I coined the term Zenyattard.

His stupidity is inspiring.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The irony of a Zenyatta fan taking shots at Goldikova's campaigns is so comical my brain can't actually process it enough to laugh.

I agree. Even though I am a big Zenyatta fan she is not even close to Goldikova

Still would like both to come back next year

BTW I also think a huge part of Zenyatta's appeal is the style she runs, coming from way off, like a Hollywood screen play would likely be written.

[tector]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I agree. Even though I am a big Zenyatta fan she is not even close to Goldikova

Still would like both to come back next year

BTW I also think a huge part of Zenyatta's appeal is the style she runs, coming from way off, like a Hollywood screen play would likely be written.

I think many people, especially the common man, do like this. Among diehard fans, I think the "take the race by the throat and crush the spirit of your opponents" types are far more preferred.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Excellent

Maybe they'll actually run her for the BIG money in classic distance contests (Arc, BCT) next fall … or bring her back over to see if she's top class on different surfaces (Met Mile) like that big Cali mare...

This is funny in 5 races for both Blame and Zenyatta before the Classic.

Blame 4 (1st) 1 (2nd) = $1,051,467
Zenyatta 5 (1st) = $930,000

Now lets add Goldi's 5 races before the Mile
Goldikova 4 (1st) 1 (2nd) = $985,495

Who's been running for more money again all year?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

This is funny in 5 races for both Blame and Zenyatta before the Classic.

Blame 4 (1st) 1 (2nd) = $1,051,467
Zenyatta 5 (1st) = $930,000

Now lets add Goldi's 5 races before the Mile
Goldikova 4 (1st) 1 (2nd) = $985,495

Who's been running for more money again all year?

I hope you are doing this with the exchange rate in mind. Tell me you are.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I hope you are doing this with the exchange rate in mind. Tell me you are.

Aren't purses in the form always calculated in American Dollars? If not then nope it wasn't.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Aren't purses in the form always calculated in American Dollars? If not then nope it wasn't.

Not as I read it when the races are held in Europe. Usually paid in pounds or euros.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Serious question...
With this pedigree,running style, and lowish beyers will there really be a big demand at stud for him? I thought for sure he would be back next year.

He won the Clark, Foster, Whitney and Breeders' Cup Classic and ran second in the Jockey Club Gold Cup and Super Derby. There's nothing wrong with his pedigree. Arch gets plenty of useful classic distance runners and throws both dirt and turf runners. His dam and granddam were both six-figure earners and his dam is a half to Archipenko. People who want stayers will most likely love him at stud.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Serious question...
With this pedigree,running style, and lowish beyers will there really be a big demand at stud for him? I thought for sure he would be back next year.

My how a year changes someone's opinion, especially when that year includes a 4-5 campaign and a victory over the greatest horse evar.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Why is that more likely? Blame is very serious.... Hes better then the Kentucky Derby winner, he has been better then him for about 5 months. Hes better then the Macho Again, Einstein and Bullsbay and they are the 3 best older dirt horses we had this year. With Summer Bird being injured and Quality Road having issues, Blame is right at the top of the handicap division next year.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

My how a year changes someone's opinion, especially when that year includes a 4-5 campaign and a victory over the greatest horse evar.

I was right... Thanks, bro...
BTW, you made me hate Blame.