Shireffs-- Zenyatta is HOY

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by prudery

That may be true, but she doesn't run or live in a tropical climates either .

Mornings at all tracks are cold even in the summer .

I get your point, but I don't think the temp change is that dramatic.

It is not like she was beamed from stall to gate without moving .

What does the morning have to do with it? There is a reason that riders warm horses up before a race. The fact is that when you dont warm up your horse on a cold day then you shouldnt be surprised when she is slow to get into the race. This is consistent from claiming horses to mythical horses.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What does the morning have to do with it? There is a reason that riders warm horses up before a race. The fact is that when you dont warm up your horse on a cold day then you shouldnt be surprised when she is slow to get into the race. This is consistent from claiming horses to mythical horses.

I understand what warming horses up is . I am also a rider .

The morning comment had to do with your saying she had never been in 40 degree weather .

Feel free to disagee--and no one needs my permission here--but I believe the connections know the difference between hot and cold .

The mare was outside all day--she didn't come straight from a stall .

She was moving around all day and got to the post moving .

Perhaps you think the lack of a conventional gallop pre-race caused her to start slow, perhaps it did OR did not .

But you are not allowing the possibility that it didn't .

They know the horse and the temperature . They could have been wrong, as you or I could have ...

I live in New England . My riding horses get warmed up in ALL weather . If I ride in 12 degree weather extra precautions and a rug are used .

It was 40 .

I am not saying you don't have a point, but I am saying there are less conventional ways to warm up that may also work--everyone else stayed in their stalls before the walkover all day , and 40 degrees isn't arctic zone temp ..


Mythical horses don't need warmups--but you know that .

Nothing that went to the post yesterday was mythical, it was real flesh and blood thoroughbreds--at least to me .

[Indian Charlie]

You are from New England?

That does it, I'm going back to Cali.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You are from New England?

That does it, I'm going back to Cali.

I am from NY, I live in New England .

Car service is available to Logan if you wish .

But disappointingly, one is never too far or close on the net...

[Princess Doreen]

The article doesn't state if Shirreffs was asked if Zenyatta was deserving of HOY. I'll bet he was. Was he supposed to have said, "NO"?

[randallscott35]

Another clown http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...3758700.column

[Cannon Shell]

"The voting Turf Writers Assn. of America has a big responsibility here. If it accepts the argument that whichever horse wins the Breeders' Cup Classic is horse of the year, then it confirms that racing will always be a good-old-boy network, with the only thing that matters is what comes from, and happens, east of the Mississippi.

A vote that way also says that there isn't even consistency in the bias, since last year's Breeders' Cup Classic was won by Zenyatta, and she was second to Eastern horse Rachel Alexandra in the horse-of-the-year voting.

A vote for Zenyatta indicates recognition of her racing results and the positive intangibles she gave her sport."

oh boy...