11/6 (CD): Breeders' Cup Saturday (Post Draw Fields; ML's)

[Princess Doreen]

haven't a clue
Atta Boy Roy
Silver Timber
Uncle Mo
Goldikova
Gayego
Al Khali
even though I really like LAL, I think the Big Z will get it done.

[my miss storm cat]

http://pdfs.thoroughbreddailynews.co...turday2010.pdf

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

http://pdfs.thoroughbreddailynews.co...turday2010.pdf

Thanks.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by HomerS

The Classic is really shaping up to be a great betting race.

The hype about Zenyetta is only growing- which didnt think possible and this is going to guarantee great prices on just about anyone else. I know there are some players who go by the "picking winners" mentality and that the only thing that matters is looking backwards afterwards and concluding only the winner was a good bet. But for rest of us this is shaping up as a phenomenal value proposition. Not quite once in a lifetime but just a great opportunity.

There is a perceived hype on message boards and outlandish articles written by some but I have a hunch there is a silent majority just waiting to cash in on the value of the "other three" and many of those people are going to be disappointed. There will be value outside of the top four and I'm not convinced she will be favored come post time.

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I'm not singling him, but don't think that's crazy at all.

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I think he is the most likely winner.

Paul

Any horse that can get to the winners circle 3 times in a row with Solis on board is what I consider special in this day and age. If I have to crash and burn then this is the race where I'll do so.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

No, but I can tell you other reasons you are crazy, if you'd like.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No, but I can tell you other reasons you are crazy, if you'd like.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I dont like him much, not sure Ill even cover him.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont like him much, not sure Ill even cover him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9dI9U6RH9g

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I am in love with this guy in this race. You're crazy, but not for singling him

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by philcski

I am in love with this guy in this race. You're crazy, but not for singling him

What am I missing on him? I think Tizway ROLLS.

[hockey2315]

She'll obviously be under 3-1.

[pweizer]

She will be under 2-1.

Paul

[tiznowthegreat]

What I want to know is if she will be favored in p3 p4 and p6 pools?

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by HomerS

We will see. The odds on her last year were ridiculously low and that was on her home track. Because she won, the results focused players thought that made her a good bet, but her odds were crazy and think will be even more sothis time considering field is better, and will be on real dirt.

If she is anything under 5-1 (and I would think she will be 3-1 or lower) that pretty much guarantees overlays all around. Personally woulndnt touch her at anything under 12-1

Aren't all of the above reasons why she may not be bet as heavily this year ?

Last year the second and fourth choices were shipping in from europe and the third choice was the best 3YO who had never run on synthetics. There was no contender the public could embrace with confidence other than Zenyatta.
This year there are three strong contenders that people are more familiar with.
One of them consistently runs higher numbers than the field but does have some question marks concerning the added distance.

Another has defeated the first one, appears to have stamina based on his running style and will be at his track.

The third is an improving 3YO, proven on dirt, and the stablemate of a filly who gave the mare all she could handle at 1 1/16 miles.

There is a fourth horse who beat the second one at this distance but won't be taking his track with him.

It may be farfetched for me to believe that she won't be the favorite but choices 2,3,4 this year will be bet stronger than last year's group.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Aren't all of the above reasons why she may not be bet as heavily this year ?

Last year the second and fourth choices were shipping in from europe and the third choice was the best 3YO who had never run on synthetics. There was no contender the public could embrace with confidence other than Zenyatta.
This year there are three strong contenders that people are more familiar with.
One of them consistently runs higher numbers than the field but does have some question marks concerning the added distance.

Another has defeated the first one, appears to have stamina based on his running style and will be at his track.

The third is an improving 3YO, proven on dirt, and the stablemate of a filly who gave the mare all she could handle at 1 1/16 miles.

There is a fourth horse who beat the second one at this distance but won't be taking his track with him.

It may be farfetched for me to believe that she won't be the favorite but choices 2,3,4 this year will be bet stronger than last year's group.

Bob Baffert does not train Switch.

And does this mean that last year's field did suck?

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Bob Baffert does not train Switch.

And does this mean that last year's field did suck?

My bad,thx for the correction about Switch.

I don't usually think any field "sucks".

It means that last year the choices bettors had other than her weren't as clear cut as they are this year. There had to be some apprehension about the (unfamiliar to US fans) Euro horses and who could wager with confidence on Summer Bird trying synthetic for the first time ? Familiarity and the proven quantity on this year's racing surface will make the wagering more competitive. More like the 2006 Derby.