Brother Derek

[boswd]

Brother Derek over hyped hmmmm. I don't know. Going into the Derby who was a deserving morning line favorite. He won everything he had too. After the Derby it seems there has been allot of excuses made for him, some have merit, some don't.
IMO I think Hendricks took a huge gamble with Bro Derek going into his fall campaign and up to this point has failed. I think it was a huge mistake keeping him from the major summer stakes races for 3 yr olds. Either he was secretly hurt or sore or just bad strategy. Sort of reminds me of Phletcher and Flower Ally But either way his stock has fallen drastically. A shocking upset in the BC is a must otherwise we'll see how he is as a four yr old.

Bro. Derek needs to stay in Cal if they want him to win anymore.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyes

Bro. Derek needs to stay in Cal if they want him to win anymore.

He could surely have beaten a sorry field like that one in the Indiana Derby. He could have won the WV Derby. There are plenty of fields outside of California that he can beat. He just won't beat a horse like Bernardini or Barbaro even if they ran the race in his dreams.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

He could surely have beaten a sorry field like that one in the Indiana Derby. He could have won the WV Derby. There are plenty of fields outside of California that he can beat. He just won't beat a horse like Bernardini or Barbaro even if they ran the race in his dreams.

Why bother shipping him for those kinds of races when he can find similiar or better in Cal and win them?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyes

Why bother shipping him for those kinds of races when he can find similiar or better in Cal and win them?

There weren't any he could have won in Cal for anywhere near the purses of those races. The Del Mar meet really lacks in 3yo dirt racing.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

There weren't any he could have won in Cal for anywhere near the purses of those races. The Del Mar meet really lacks in 3yo dirt racing.

So wait until the Hollywood meet or Santa Anita meet. Besides, I wouldn't run a dog on that Del Mar track......
BTW, when was his first race back since his layoff?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyes

So wait until the Hollywood meet or Santa Anita meet. Besides, I wouldn't run a dog on that Del Mar track......

I just have a tough time fathoming how there can be so many easy races for 3yos with huge purses at all these tracks throughout the midwest and east coast and more decent horses aren't shipping in for them.

Brother Derek could have run in the Pegasus at the Meadowlands in NJ(on his way to Churchill). I think he would have defeated one of the weakest fields in the history of that race.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyes

Why bother shipping him for those kinds of races when he can find similiar or better in Cal and win them?

The Swaps is the only big race in California for 3yo's on the dirt after the TC. The purse there is $250k, $350k if u are a BC eligible horse. The purse for the WV Derby is $750k. For the Indiana Derby it's $500k. The Super Derby was run for $500k. Do u still have to ask why bother?

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The Swaps is the only big race in California for 3yo's on the dirt after the TC. The purse there is $250k, $350k if u are a BC eligible horse. The purse for the WV Derby is $750k. For the Indiana Derby it's $500k. The Super Derby was run for $500k. Do u still have to ask why bother?

Yes, why bother shipping a horse outside of California that won't/can't win outside of California? Now do you understand what I am saying about the horse? I was trying to be nice to his fans.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyes

Yes, why bother shipping a horse outside of California that won't/can't win outside of California? Now do you understand what I am saying about the horse? I was trying to be nice to his fans.

That's silly. Are u saying that if the Derby was in Cali, he would have beaten Barbaro? If the Preakness was in Cali, he would have beaten Bernardini? If that's your belief, this is useless. The fact is that he wasn't going to win those races no matter where they were held. But if he had shipped to the Indiana Derby or the WV Derby, he wouldn't have been facing Barbaro and Bernardini. It wasn't where the races were being held that was getting him beat. He can ship to Japan and beat horses like Cielo Gold and Star Dabbler. Come on now.