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[hockey2315]

His running line was 6-8-8-9-4 - dead last at the top of the stretch - and he came home in :23.54. I'm sure his running line looks excellent on the Fat Charts. He has more speed than that - there was no reason to be that far back. He was pulling and full of horse on the backstretch, but Alan had to strangle him. I'm all for saving ground, but this horse is so big that it's just not going to work with him. He's always going to find traffic if you don't give him a lot of room to run. I think the bonehead ride Kent gave him two-back has them over-adjusting with him. The same overly patient, jam him in between horses until the last possible second ride almost got him beat last time too.

I've been experiencing a ridiculous cold streak the last few weeks (bad opinions, not bad luck), and to be right for once and not get rewarded (had the other two exactas) is very frustrating. Played 2,10 w/ ALL w/ 5 in Pk3s and then 2,10 w/ 5 horses (winner was the longest price of them) w/ 5. Just gross. I guess that's what I get for singling in a race like that, but I was against all the Euros and thought this would be Al Khali's breakout race.

Obviously I'm going to bet him big time in the BC, but I'm kind of wondering if he's the type of horse that will always end up in trouble. Also not sure a course like Churchill favors him like Woodbine or Belmont does.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

His running line was 6-8-8-9-4 - dead last at the top of the stretch - and he came home in :23.54. I'm sure his running line looks excellent on the Fat Charts. He has more speed than that - there was no reason to be that far back. He was pulling and full of horse on the backstretch, but Alan had to strangle him. I'm all for saving ground, but this horse is so big that it's just not going to work with him. He's always going to find traffic if you don't give him a lot of room to run. I think the bonehead ride Kent gave him two-back has them over-adjusting with him. The same overly patient, jam him in between horses until the last possible second ride almost got him beat last time too.

I've been experiencing a ridiculous cold streak the last few weeks (bad opinions, not bad luck), and to be right for once and not get rewarded (had the other two exactas) is very frustrating. Played 2,10 w/ ALL w/ 5 in Pk3s and then 2,10 w/ 5 horses (winner was the longest price of them) w/ 5. Just gross. I guess that's what I get for singling in a race like that, but I was against all the Euros and thought this would be Al Khali's breakout race.

Obviously I'm going to bet him big time in the BC, but I'm kind of wondering if he's the type of horse that will always end up in trouble. Also not sure a course like Churchill favors him like Woodbine or Belmont does.

Al Khali a horse you and others have insulted me for chasing and now he is going to beat the ARC winner?

[hockey2315]

Arc winners are probably the worst BC bets of all.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Arc winners are probably the worst BC bets of all.

In the past, yup... But Im not sure how that will have any affect on this years running, and this HORRIBLE CROP OF TURF HORSES.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

In the past, yup... But Im not sure how that will have any affect on this years running, and this HORRIBLE CROP OF TURF HORSES.

Huh? The phenomenon is still relevant because it's explainable - it's not random. Arc horses are prepared to run their absolute best races in the Arc and they tail off in the BC because it's a hard-to-pass-up afterthought to their connections. European horses that are pointed to the BC are the ones who do so well - the list of over-the-top Euro favorites off the board is long. The one thing that Workforce has going for him is that he's lightly raced - so he should have more left in the tank than most that fit his profile, but I'm certainly not afraid of him. I'm not planning on singling Al Khali or anything, but I'll bet out on him at 15-1+. He is infinitely better than he looks on paper.

Winning Woodbine Beyers (may be a point off):

Joshua Tree - 101
Reggane - 103
Serious Attitude - 108 (whoa)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Huh? The phenomenon is still relevant because it's explainable - it's not random. Arc horses are prepared to run their absolute best races in the Arc and they tail off in the BC because it's a hard-to-pass-up afterthought to their connections. European horses that are pointed to the BC are the ones who do so well - the list of over-the-top Euro favorites off the board is long. The one thing that Workforce has going for him is that he's lightly raced - so he should have more left in the tank than most that fit his profile, but I'm certainly not afraid of him. I'm not planning on singling Al Khali or anything, but I'll bet out on him at 15-1+. He is infinitely better than he looks on paper.

Winning Woodbine Beyers (may be a point off):

Joshua Tree - 101
Reggane - 103
Serious Attitude - 108 (whoa)

Winners haven't done well, though Trempolino was photoed by the mighty Theatrical, but runners up are a different story. The Aga Khan horse coming over will drown the likes of Al Khali.

I feel your pain, and he probably should have won today, but the BC field will be much tougher. Do you even think he'll run?

I was surprised Garcia was back aboard after last time. I watched that race with Mott. I can't believe he rode him back.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Winners haven't done well, though Trempolino was photoed by the mighty Theatrical, but runners up are a different story. The Aga Khan horse coming over will drown the likes of Al Khali.

I feel your pain, and he probably should have won today, but the BC field will be much tougher. Do you even think he'll run?

I was surprised Garcia was back aboard after last time. I watched that race with Mott. I can't believe he rode him back.

Bekhabad? He's good, but I'll take my chances with a horse who will be 4x the price at least. I like Plumania more if she runs there.

I assume he'll run. . . why not?

From my experience with Mott, he doesn't seem like one to change jocks after bad rides for whatever reason.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

His running line was 6-8-8-9-4 - dead last at the top of the stretch - and he came home in :23.54. I'm sure his running line looks excellent on the Fat Charts. He has more speed than that - there was no reason to be that far back. He was pulling and full of horse on the backstretch, but Alan had to strangle him. I'm all for saving ground, but this horse is so big that it's just not going to work with him. He's always going to find traffic if you don't give him a lot of room to run. I think the bonehead ride Kent gave him two-back has them over-adjusting with him. The same overly patient, jam him in between horses until the last possible second ride almost got him beat last time too.

I've been experiencing a ridiculous cold streak the last few weeks (bad opinions, not bad luck), and to be right for once and not get rewarded (had the other two exactas) is very frustrating. Played 2,10 w/ ALL w/ 5 in Pk3s and then 2,10 w/ 5 horses (winner was the longest price of them) w/ 5. Just gross. I guess that's what I get for singling in a race like that, but I was against all the Euros and thought this would be Al Khali's breakout race.

Obviously I'm going to bet him big time in the BC, but I'm kind of wondering if he's the type of horse that will always end up in trouble. Also not sure a course like Churchill favors him like Woodbine or Belmont does.

Give Al Khali Mores Wells' trip and he wins for fun. Mores Wells got an incredible ride.