Baseball Playoffs

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

My 2 first round picks not looking so good at this point. We'll see. Some major pitching performances this post season. As we get years away from the steroid era it is amazing how much pitching has improved.

Im not sure its def the era. These 5-7 really good pitchers, have been really good the past 3-4 years. They just all came together this post seasson.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not sure its def the era. These 5-7 really good pitchers, have been really good the past 3-4 years. They just all came together this post seasson.

The steroid era was generally mid 90's into mid 2000's based on the available runs, home runs, pitching stats. Thus in the further we get out of it, the better the pitching should come back. (not to mention humidors for CO as well)

[Bigsmc]

Lee vs. Price part deux, coming up Tuesday night.

[Smooth Operator]

Lovely 5-hit CG shutout for Hollywood

Yet another post-season pitching gem…

[dalakhani]

Last game for Bobby Cox. As fine a manager as baseball has seen in the last forty years.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Last game for Bobby Cox. As fine a manager as baseball has seen in the last forty years.

Complete nonsense. Has anyone done less with more in history? He was in the playoffs every year it seems and had an exit every year. 1 championship? Horrendous. Similar to the Mets underachievement during the 80's.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Complete nonsense. Has anyone done less with more in history? He was in the playoffs every year it seems and had an exit every year. 1 championship? Horrendous. Similar to the Mets underachievement during the 80's.

A manager doesn't magically make Hitters hit and pitchers unhittable in the world series.

A good manager helps keep a team together over 162 games + playoffs and puts them in a position to win.

What more could he do? They spent money but it wasn't exactly a new York payroll.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Complete nonsense. Has anyone done less with more in history? He was in the playoffs every year it seems and had an exit every year. 1 championship? Horrendous. Similar to the Mets underachievement during the 80's.

You make some seriously uninformed statements (I could say stupid but I am being nice) but this one is close to the top.

"He was in the playoffs every year" is now an underachievement? They won 15 straight division titles. There are 32 teams in baseball. What are the odds that another team wins 15 in a row ever?

How many position players that played for Bobby Cox all those years are headed for the Hall of Fame?

One.

He has had some really good players but the idea that most years the Braves were overloaded with talent outside of Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz is mistaken. He was usually saddled with bullpens bought on the cheap and often made the playoffs with 2 or sometimes 3 players who were below average players in the starting line up.
Robert Fick, Keith Lockhart, Eddie Perez, Rico Brogna, Quilvio Veras, Walt Weiss, Gerald Williams, Michael Tucker, Tony Graffinino, Mark Lemke, etc were all starters at some point during the 15 straight seasons.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Complete nonsense. Has anyone done less with more in history? He was in the playoffs every year it seems and had an exit every year. 1 championship? Horrendous. Similar to the Mets underachievement during the 80's.

I don't think it's horrendous, but he was a better regular-season manager. In the post, his teams almost always shut it down on offense. I'm sure some of that's on him. How much? Hard to say, but, then, you also have to give him the credit for getting to the post so much. He did get a ring. So, I think the truth is somewhere in between your's n' Cannon's extremes.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Last game for Bobby Cox. As fine a manager as baseball has seen in the last forty years.

Bobby Cox = Marv Levy

[NTamm1215]

I think Bobby Cox = Bill Cowher.