10/9 (BEL): Champagne S., Frizette S., Jamaica H. (G1's)

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What's that supposed to mean?

..nothing against you or your namesake.
It's just a little premature to annoint a horse who very well may be better suited to be a sprinter/miler as a legitimate Kentucky Derby candidate off one 6F maiden win.

When was the last time a Derby winner won their debut by open lengths sprinting as a 2-year old?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

..nothing against you or your namesake.
It's just a little premature to annoint a horse who very well may be better suited to be a sprinter/miler as a legitimate Kentucky Derby candidate off one 6F maiden win.

When was the last time a Derby winner won their debut by open lengths sprinting as a 2-year old?

Oh, ok. For a second there, I thought I'd have to be mean to you.

The answer to your question is 2010!

J/K. Horses like this never last long, and with PG1985 getting the mount on him, he's toast.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Oh, ok. For a second there, I thought I'd have to be mean to you.

The answer to your question is 2010!

J/K. Horses like this never last long, and with PG1985 getting the mount on him, he's toast.

Actually, I think Super Saver won his 2nd start, and it was going a mile.
The answer to my question was probably Smarty Jones. Didn't he win his debut at Philly by 6 or 7 lengths?

Of course Indian Charlies can produce classic distance horses, on both surfaces. I'm just not quite as excited about Uncle Mo's long-term potential as some people, but he's an exciting 2-year old, for sure.

[Indian Charlie]

Interesting Ragozin take on Uncle Mo.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ne-stakes.aspx

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Interesting Ragozin take on Uncle Mo.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ne-stakes.aspx

Always good to see their misinterpretations that have led to horses racing four times a year and once every two months during peak times.

Uncle Mo will likely run a lower fig because he earned his debut figure on a track playing very kindly to inside speed and is now stretching out a quarter of a mile on a fair racetrack. A lower fig with be neither a regression, nor a bounce, but a logical result of very different circumstances.

The hooey that has helped destroy high level racing. Then again, maybe some people think Blame benefited from his two months off after the Whitney.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Always good to see their misinterpretations that have led to horses racing four times a year and once every two months during peak times.

Uncle Mo will likely run a lower fig because he earned his debut figure on a track playing very kindly to inside speed and is now stretching out a quarter of a mile on a fair racetrack. A lower fig with be neither a regression, nor a bounce, but a logical result of very different circumstances.

The hooey that has helped destroy high level racing. Then again, maybe some people think Blame benefited from his two months off after the Whitney.

Yeah, I don't buy it either.

What's interesting to me is the amount of hype they are giving him.

Only 6 Derby winners in the last 20 years ran a Derby figure as good as his debut?

That seems retarded comparing a 2yo 6f msw to the Derby, but oh well.

I really do hope this horse holds up though, for obvious reasons.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Always good to see their misinterpretations that have led to horses racing four times a year and once every two months during peak times.

Uncle Mo will likely run a lower fig because he earned his debut figure on a track playing very kindly to inside speed and is now stretching out a quarter of a mile on a fair racetrack. A lower fig with be neither a regression, nor a bounce, but a logical result of very different circumstances.

The hooey that has helped destroy high level racing. Then again, maybe some people think Blame benefited from his two months off after the Whitney.

The saying should be, they just don't make trainers like they used to not horses.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

The saying should be, they just don't make trainers like they used to not horses.

Hard to argue with that.