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Old 10-10-2006, 03:12 PM
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he prob. dosent ship that well so the extra time between shipping and the race will do him good.
Exactly, he has about 3 weeks to get acclimated to a new surrounding, I am sure they will take him over the Churchill surface too, it is only about a 45 minutes ride I have heard
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:16 PM
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I dont think training over Keeneland will help him one bit at CHD. Its nice to ship in early, I agree with that 100%. Shipping in a week early, something like that and just galloping/jogging over the surface after a final work is a good idea. Shipping into Keeneland to prep a horse to run at CHD, makes no sense
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:17 PM
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Big difference flying over to Japan off a huge race to run in another huge race. That was just a dumb spot for Lava Man. No horse would take that ship well
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:19 PM
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I agree, he should have never run in Japan. None of our horses ever seem to do well there. I hope the connections of Kennle Up pass up the temptation of sending him over this year to run in teh Japan Cup. Too many horses.
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:22 PM
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Big difference flying over to Japan off a huge race to run in another huge race. That was just a dumb spot for Lava Man. No horse would take that ship well
Also, he didn't run well in his last race in Cali before shipping, this is the first time he's been running well before he's shipped...
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:00 PM
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Yeah he mentioned this during the telecast, he was wanting to give Lava 3 weeks in Kentucky.

I am very excited about this. I like this horse a lot. I like Dini as well, but the gambler in me is going with Lava for 2 reasons.

1 - I love the underdogs
2 - I love the odds Lava will get compared to Dini
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:17 PM
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Also, I saw a comment where O'Neil said that LM had bad feet and they wanted to train on the Poly because of it...
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:20 PM
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Exactly, he has about 3 weeks to get acclimated to a new surrounding, I am sure they will take him over the Churchill surface too, it is only about a 45 minutes ride I have heard
About an hour and a half.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:10 PM
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Exactly, he has about 3 weeks to get acclimated to a new surrounding, I am sure they will take him over the Churchill surface too, it is only about a 45 minutes ride I have heard
If you drive like Wayne Lukas.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:13 PM
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If you drive like Wayne Lukas.
LOL... I guess I do, then. I made it from Keeneland to Churchill Downs in about 50 minutes. LOL
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:16 PM
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LOL... I guess I do, then. I made it from Keeneland to Churchill Downs in about 50 minutes. LOL
LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:18 PM
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LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
Me too... I only have two (or maybe one) more chances at driving school... I haven't gotten a ticket in about a year, but when I get them... they're big ones.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:21 PM
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:48 PM
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LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
50 minutes is about right from Louisville.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:57 PM
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o'neill said some time ago he was going to ship in weeks ahead. smart move, as shipping in just prior obviously didn't work for the Man.
also, as was noted above, this horse is running lights out compared to last year, and certainly hasn't had to be vanned off after a huge effort, as he was last year just before going to japan.
he's been training on poly while racing on dirt. and of course the turf back when. horse is doing well, so keep doing it.

he's not the only one shipping either. invasor and bernardini taking a trip to ky as well. neutral ground...apparently ky is the new switzerland.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:37 PM
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o'neill said some time ago he was going to ship in weeks ahead. smart move, as shipping in just prior obviously didn't work for the Man.
also, as was noted above, this horse is running lights out compared to last year, and certainly hasn't had to be vanned off after a huge effort, as he was last year just before going to japan.
he's been training on poly while racing on dirt. and of course the turf back when. horse is doing well, so keep doing it.

he's not the only one shipping either. invasor and bernardini taking a trip to ky as well. neutral ground...apparently ky is the new switzerland.
To say he is running lights out compared to last year is just dead wrong. His figures from last year, his racing times from last year.......he was running better last year than he has been this year. He just got back to back 109 Beyer's in the Gold Cup and Pacific Classic. Last year he got 120 and 112 in those two races, right on the heels of a 116 in the Californian.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:16 PM
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LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
Is that why he always dresses like a chauffeur?
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:14 PM
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I think it's a good move on the trainers part. The horse has 3 weeks to settle in. Shipping can be tough on a horse. He's pretty much going to be training on the same surface if he'd stayed in Cal. but perhaps the trainer was considering the weather change. I don't know how quickly he would get acclimated or if it would really make that big of a difference. I think the trainer just wants to near CHD if he decides to give the horse a work over the surface.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:28 PM
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Ah, its actually about 45 minutes if you go 60. To make it an hour and a half trip youd have to be getting some throat
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:43 PM
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Ah, its actually about 45 minutes if you go 60. To make it an hour and a half trip youd have to be getting some throat
Getting some throat? thats a new one on me! lol My personal favorite is "swallowing the children".
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