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Old 10-10-2006, 03:03 PM
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I think it's a bad move. What is training at Keeneland going to do to help him for Churchill? They are two entirely different tracks. Might as well have stayed home and kept him at Hollywood. At least he already knows he likes that Hollywood junk. This is worthless in my opinion. I hate all this talk about letting horses get acclimated to a surface. Either they will like it or they won't. If u don't like broccoli, is your mother making u eat more of it going to make u like it? No. If a horse doesn't like a certain track (say it's too hard and stings his feet or something), he's going to run worse on it the more he trains on it because he will have had time to develop a memory of how it hurts. And this is even worse because he's not training on the track he's running on. Now watch the weather cause O'Neill to lose some days of training. Just watch. While it's beautiful here in Southern Cal.
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:10 PM
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well he knows more about the horse than all of us combined......... he prob. dosent ship that well so the extra time between shipping and the race will do him good.
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:12 PM
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he prob. dosent ship that well so the extra time between shipping and the race will do him good.
Exactly, he has about 3 weeks to get acclimated to a new surrounding, I am sure they will take him over the Churchill surface too, it is only about a 45 minutes ride I have heard
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:16 PM
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I dont think training over Keeneland will help him one bit at CHD. Its nice to ship in early, I agree with that 100%. Shipping in a week early, something like that and just galloping/jogging over the surface after a final work is a good idea. Shipping into Keeneland to prep a horse to run at CHD, makes no sense
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:17 PM
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Big difference flying over to Japan off a huge race to run in another huge race. That was just a dumb spot for Lava Man. No horse would take that ship well
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:19 PM
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I agree, he should have never run in Japan. None of our horses ever seem to do well there. I hope the connections of Kennle Up pass up the temptation of sending him over this year to run in teh Japan Cup. Too many horses.
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:22 PM
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Big difference flying over to Japan off a huge race to run in another huge race. That was just a dumb spot for Lava Man. No horse would take that ship well
Also, he didn't run well in his last race in Cali before shipping, this is the first time he's been running well before he's shipped...
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:00 PM
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Yeah he mentioned this during the telecast, he was wanting to give Lava 3 weeks in Kentucky.

I am very excited about this. I like this horse a lot. I like Dini as well, but the gambler in me is going with Lava for 2 reasons.

1 - I love the underdogs
2 - I love the odds Lava will get compared to Dini
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:17 PM
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Also, I saw a comment where O'Neil said that LM had bad feet and they wanted to train on the Poly because of it...
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:20 PM
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Exactly, he has about 3 weeks to get acclimated to a new surrounding, I am sure they will take him over the Churchill surface too, it is only about a 45 minutes ride I have heard
About an hour and a half.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:10 PM
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Exactly, he has about 3 weeks to get acclimated to a new surrounding, I am sure they will take him over the Churchill surface too, it is only about a 45 minutes ride I have heard
If you drive like Wayne Lukas.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:13 PM
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If you drive like Wayne Lukas.
LOL... I guess I do, then. I made it from Keeneland to Churchill Downs in about 50 minutes. LOL
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:16 PM
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LOL... I guess I do, then. I made it from Keeneland to Churchill Downs in about 50 minutes. LOL
LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:18 PM
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LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
Me too... I only have two (or maybe one) more chances at driving school... I haven't gotten a ticket in about a year, but when I get them... they're big ones.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:48 PM
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LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
50 minutes is about right from Louisville.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:16 PM
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LOL. I remember reading an article in the Herald Leader about Wayne joking about being able to get to Keeneland "quickly". Scarey driver.
Is that why he always dresses like a chauffeur?
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:14 PM
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I think it's a good move on the trainers part. The horse has 3 weeks to settle in. Shipping can be tough on a horse. He's pretty much going to be training on the same surface if he'd stayed in Cal. but perhaps the trainer was considering the weather change. I don't know how quickly he would get acclimated or if it would really make that big of a difference. I think the trainer just wants to near CHD if he decides to give the horse a work over the surface.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:28 PM
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Ah, its actually about 45 minutes if you go 60. To make it an hour and a half trip youd have to be getting some throat
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:43 PM
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Ah, its actually about 45 minutes if you go 60. To make it an hour and a half trip youd have to be getting some throat
Getting some throat? thats a new one on me! lol My personal favorite is "swallowing the children".
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:53 AM
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Ordinarly shipping to one track to train and run at another makes no sense. All the ballyhoo about the poly, how kind it is for training, and Oneals praise of the Hollywood surface appears to be logical. Concern about loosing training due to the weather fall right into place with the poly[the ability to work with bad weather].Similarity in the logistics, Keen and CH and SA and hol helps explain the move.If anyone thinks he will bring Lava Man over to Curchill the day before the race, I have some of that famous oceanfront property in Ariz for sale.
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