Bernardini = 117 Beyer, Henny Hughes = 113 Beyer

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Has Bernardini ever put up a Sheet# that compares to GZ or St. Liam? The best I have seen is a -2, I don't think he can really be considered great unless he cracks the -4 range on Thoro...If not, he's really no different than Smarty, Afleet Alex, Point Given, or Flower Alley for that matter...

He's never had to run a -4....it only takes a -2 to run away from his competition under wraps apparently....

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

He's never had to run a -4....it only takes a -2 to run away from his competition under wraps apparently....

Exactly. When he puts up a -5 like Mineshaft and Zapper we can talk....But to be fair those were as older so I'm willing to wait.

[Cannon Shell]

If sheet numbers were the end all of arguements then Bernardini is much better than Secretariat and Spectacular bid becuase his -2's are far superior to what those horses ran.

[The Bid]

Any number has a bit of objectivity in it, whether you are a tgraph, ragz, or beyer, guy. Any person with average vision can see that Bernardini could have won any of his races by whatever margin Javier deemed fit. Im sure Javy didnt think about his rag sheet number, or beyer when he choked him down the last 16th.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Any number has a bit of objectivity in it, whether you are a tgraph, ragz, or beyer, guy. Any person with average vision can see that Bernardini could have won any of his races by whatever margin Javier deemed fit. Im sure Javy didnt think about his rag sheet number, or beyer when he choked him down the last 16th.

Horses do not decelerate like a car, inertia will carry them a 1/16th of a mile at a nearly identical speed regardless of what the jockey is doing.

[The Bid]

He lost at least 2 lengths being geared down. It was probably more than the final 16th as well

[The Bid]

Ah, a lenght probably, but it still is enough to sway a number

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

He lost at least 2 lengths being geared down. It was probably more than the final 16th as well

Physics dude, physics. Horses going full speed do not just slow down the instant a rider wants them to.

[Danzig]

yeah, just ask john mckee...

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Physics dude, physics. Horses going full speed do not just slow down the instant a rider wants them to.

You tell me when he was asked to lay down and give everything he had......he wasn't....the pedal was never to the medal IMO....