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Old 10-09-2006, 05:17 PM
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The general public simply has no idea how many horses are being catastophically injured on poly. Turfway, didnt give an accurate number. However, Woodbine has had 3 horses breakdown fatally over their new surface during training hours. These tracks arent going to give accurate figures, it would make them look foolish.

If a horse cannot get over a good conventional dirt surface soundly, they shouldnt be running, period. The breeding is what needs to change, not the racing surfaces.

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Old 10-09-2006, 05:20 PM
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Bid,i doubt your excuses for poorly maintained surfaces will fly any more. the breeding will not change until the market demands that. insofar as Woodbine, you'll need to prove 3 horses have broken down due to poly.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:23 PM
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Bid,i doubt your excuses for poorly maintained surfaces will fly any more. the breeding will not change until the market demands that. insofar as Woodbine, you'll need to prove 3 horses have broken down due to poly.
Sumitas, how do you prove a horse broke down due to poly just like how do you prove a horse broke down due to dirt, or broke down due to turf?
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:26 PM
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first Sat,ask Bid, he's the expert.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:27 PM
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2 horses in the first week of Woodbines new surface, and this last one Oracle noted. I believe one was a 2 year old, one was an older claimer. The two I noted were both catastrophic. Drf had an article on both Woodbine horses. Regards
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:37 PM
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Sumitas, you must know a lot more than I do. A good conventional dirt surface is will limit breakdowns. Despite what you may think, not all dirt surfaces are the same boss.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:04 PM
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The general public simply has no idea how many horses are being catastophically injured on poly.
Nor do they have any idea how many horses are being catastrophically injured on dirt or turf or slop....
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:05 PM
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The breeding is what needs to change, not the racing surfaces.
The surface change WILL change the breeding eventually
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:10 PM
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This surface is one of the best orchestrated marketing con jobs ever attempted to be perpetuated on the racing public. And mark my words, it may take a while, but at some point that will be exposed.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:17 PM
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This surface is one of the best orchestrated marketing con jobs ever attempted to be perpetuated on the racing public. And mark my words, it may take a while, but at some point that will be exposed.
Dude NOTHING is done with the racing public in mind.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:19 PM
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Dude NOTHING is done with the racing public in mind.
LOL!!! Good point.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:19 PM
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This surface is one of the best orchestrated marketing con jobs ever attempted to be perpetuated on the racing public. And mark my words, it may take a while, but at some point that will be exposed.
It has nothing to do with marketing. The trainers love it. Horses stay much sounder on it. I've talked to numerous trainers. They all say the same thing.
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