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Old 10-09-2006, 04:02 PM
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I'm still up in the air about the BCJ. I have no idea what I am going to do with that race. I like Circular Quay and Great Hunter, but there are a few others that I think could pull the upset. I'll know a little more when the race draws nearer.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:18 PM
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Had to throw my two cents in after reading some of the posts.

Oracle: In this thread you have stated "a horse is screwed if they have a huge burst of accelleration". If that wasn't enough you blame the poly for CQ's loss when Pletchers assistant stated "he loves the poly surface here at Keeneland". CQ is a very small horse and may well be a come from behind sprinter!

You slam Kelly's Landing, a track record holder who has been displacing his palate lately!

You slam Asi Siempre; but ignore her glittering works over the surface!

You say Great Hunter is one paced, yet the horse has passed an average of FIVE horses, EVERY time he has run!

Then you say you are a better analysis and race watcher than someone else? What?

Euro: Street Sense was the best horse and will smoke these in Louisville. I wrote a prerace story on the Delmar forum extoling his many virtues, I think it is www.dmtc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6076 At any rate it can be accessed at, under Saturday Keeneland play (bellsbendboy). Be careful, if you look it up you will triple your play on the colt. Calvin knew he blew it and said as much after the race. A Charasmatic clone with a huge future indeed.

Scav: More handicapperscappers bounce, than horses, for sure. BBB
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
Had to throw my two cents in after reading some of the posts.

Oracle: In this thread you have stated "a horse is screwed if they have a huge burst of accelleration". If that wasn't enough you blame the poly for CQ's loss when Pletchers assistant stated "he loves the poly surface here at Keeneland". CQ is a very small horse and may well be a come from behind sprinter!

You slam Kelly's Landing, a track record holder who has been displacing his palate lately!

You slam Asi Siempre; but ignore her glittering works over the surface!

You say Great Hunter is one paced, yet the horse has passed an average of FIVE horses, EVERY time he has run!

Then you say you are a better analysis and race watcher than someone else? What?

Euro: Street Sense was the best horse and will smoke these in Louisville. I wrote a prerace story on the Delmar forum extoling his many virtues, I think it is www.dmtc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6076 At any rate it can be accessed at, under Saturday Keeneland play (bellsbendboy). Be careful, if you look it up you will triple your play on the colt. Calvin knew he blew it and said as much after the race. A Charasmatic clone with a huge future indeed.

Scav: More handicapperscappers bounce, than horses, for sure. BBB
Good write up. I was going to be $200 to win on Street Sense, but when I saw 11-1 I was like OH MY and then I doubled my bet. I hope this horse goes off at 11-1 odds on Nov 4th. I will triple my bet to $1200 to win. I saw the work with Elusive and it was a thing of beauty. It was a work that reminded me of Barbaro's the Saturday before Derby.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:16 PM
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Displacing palate? yeah, ok, sure. So the guy just figured out he needed a tie back or myectomy? Yikes, hes kinda old to have just had that happen.

Asi's WORKS over the SURFACE, meaning polytrack. Like I said, if she goes in the Distaff she gets beat like a drum

CQ, whats his asst trainer gonna say? Did he say that after the race? Or before? What a dumb thing to say, everyone says their horse likes a surface, grass, dirt or the tires, before they actually RUN on it. Works are works, racing is racing. He obviously didn't like it and wasn't striding out like he had previously and ran timid.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:20 PM
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Perhaps Circular Quay didn't like Polytrack, I suppose it's possible that a close second place finisher doesn't like a surface, but to not at least entertain the possibility that Circular Quay is basically a closing sprinter flies in the face of logic. It's certainly no more illogical than chalking up Saturday's performance to a dislike of the surface.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:22 PM
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Perhaps Circular Quay didn't like Polytrack, I suppose it's possible that a close second place finisher doesn't like a surface, but to not at least entertain the possibility that Circular Quay is basically a closing sprinter flies in the face of logic. It's certainly no more illogical than chalking up Saturday's performance to a dislike of the surface.
He wasn't a close 2nd, and he was definitely no better than 3rd best considering the trip the third place horse had. We'll find out in the BC Juvy soon enough.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:25 PM
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He finished second...obviously he wasn't second best.

Yer right....we will find out....assuming he makes it.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:26 PM
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He wasn't a close 2nd, and he was definitely no better than 3rd best considering the trip the third place horse had. We'll find out in the BC Juvy soon enough.
Yeah, to me a "close" second would have to be a length or closer. Quay lost by 1 3/4 lengths.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
Had to throw my two cents in after reading some of the posts.

Oracle: In this thread you have stated "a horse is screwed if they have a huge burst of accelleration". If that wasn't enough you blame the poly for CQ's loss when Pletchers assistant stated "he loves the poly surface here at Keeneland". CQ is a very small horse and may well be a come from behind sprinter!

You slam Kelly's Landing, a track record holder who has been displacing his palate lately!

You slam Asi Siempre; but ignore her glittering works over the surface!

You say Great Hunter is one paced, yet the horse has passed an average of FIVE horses, EVERY time he has run!

Then you say you are a better analysis and race watcher than someone else? What?

Euro: Street Sense was the best horse and will smoke these in Louisville. I wrote a prerace story on the Delmar forum extoling his many virtues, I think it is www.dmtc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6076 At any rate it can be accessed at, under Saturday Keeneland play (bellsbendboy). Be careful, if you look it up you will triple your play on the colt. Calvin knew he blew it and said as much after the race. A Charasmatic clone with a huge future indeed.

Scav: More handicapperscappers bounce, than horses, for sure. BBB
http://www.drf.com/news/article/79448.html

Chew on that!!! LOL!!! Great analysis dude, especially ridiculing my contention about speed.
Thats a TKO for me, thanks Marty McGee for compiling it.
care to reply Bellboy?
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:48 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/79448.html

Chew on that!!! LOL!!! Great analysis dude, especially ridiculing my contention about speed.
Thats a TKO for me, thanks Marty McGee for compiling it.
care to reply Bellboy?
Come on Now ORacle you know good and Well that 22 races over 3 days does not make a study. Give it the whole meet and see what happens.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:52 PM
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Come on Now ORacle you know good and Well that 22 races over 3 days does not make a study. Give it the whole meet and see what happens.
Round Pen, you are being partial.
Tell you what Pen, bet you a cheescake or pizza that YOU can't find a track this past weekend(fri-sat-sun) that had only one wire to wire winner.
Want that bet?
I doubt it, you are too smart to do that.
Don't drink the Kool Aid pen, its damn well relevant.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:54 PM
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Go ahead Pen, find me one track that had one wire to wire winner i three days and shut me up then!!! You know you want to. You can't, and you know it.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:59 PM
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Lord, what fools these mortals be!
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:08 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/79448.html

Chew on that!!! LOL!!! Great analysis dude, especially ridiculing my contention about speed.
Thats a TKO for me, thanks Marty McGee for compiling it.
care to reply Bellboy?

Dont think that the Keeneland boys wont see the headline and make an adjustment. Got a feeling the track may be a whole lot more speed favoring on wed.
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