In Figures We Trust

[hockey2315]

Can't really go off one figure, but it being a juice thing isn't out of the realm of possibility.

And I know figs aren't your thing, but it's pointless to ever quote a Bris fig. They're not real figures.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Can't really go off one figure, but it being a juice thing isn't out of the realm of possibility.

And I know figs aren't your thing, but it's pointless to ever quote a Bris fig. They're not real figures.

I'm only using the BRIS #'s as a point of comparison between prior figures and those for the races in question. Obviously, I have no idea what the Beyers were for these horses. Which puts me at a bit of a disadvantage here.
Of course, Serling spoke about these figures in some detail yesterday. He certainly didn't trust them, as he didn't pick either horse in his top 4. I'm assuming he knows more about this than I do, and it got me to wondering WHY these figures were as high as they were. And, whether they were justified.

One the one hand, BRIS, which are automated, are not real figures for you; on the other, you're outspoken about the ad hoc tweaking of numbers by the Beyer crew. Which one is it?

[hockey2315]

I'm for tweakings that are logical and justified. It's an application issue for me, not philosophical. The way they tweaked the Blind Luck fig originally just seemed off to me.

[blackthroatedwind]

I NEVER said I didn't trust the speed figures and in fact pointed out that I knew the raw number for the Fastus Cactus race was even higher than the 101. What I said was they were unlikely to be predictive....especially for yesterday's 7F race. It's handicapping not a problem with the figs.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I NEVER said I didn't trust the speed figures and in fact pointed out that I knew the raw number for the Fastus Cactus race was even higher than the 101. What I said was they were unlikely to be predictive....especially for yesterday's 7F race. It's handicapping not a problem with the figs.

I stand corrected. So the numbers were legit but the distance/setup wasn't?