Admiral Alex in the Travers

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by miraja2

He asked a question about an interesting possible starter in one of the biggest races of the year. I don't see what's so wrong about that.
Why not have a discussion about the horse? I don't think he has much of a shot either, but it seems worthy of a discussion. You really want/expect him to tell you who he's going to bet on already? That seems a bit premature. PG85 made his argument about why he liked the horse's debut, and although I don't entirely agree with it, he did make some points.

i have no problem with a discussion, everyone has put out some pretty valid points. But i don't think its productive to just defend a horses chances for the sake of conversation. it almost seems like he's taking the middle on this horse, thinks he has a chances, but wont bet on him.....well i think that about every horse in every race... i just don't make a production about it.

that being said i stand by what serling posted earlier... Bunky has no shot for win in my opinion, though his maiden voyage was impressive he didn't appear to be a world beater, i think the owner/trainer is beating a lot of pots and pans and the media is eating it up.

-bt-

[johnny pinwheel]

does this horse have a chance? every horse has a chance, thats what people never get....even people that call themselves handicappers. its a freakin horse race, known as gambling on animals. anything can happen. what are this horses chances relative to his race time odds? i can gaurantee you that the odds will be lower than they are worth just from the garbage i'm reading here.......lol. i could not bet this horse on top for less than 40 or 50 to 1 and thats being kind.......lol

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

does this horse have a chance? every horse has a chance, thats what people never get....even people that call themselves handicappers. its a freakin horse race, known as gambling on animals. anything can happen. what are this horses chances relative to his race time odds? i can gaurantee you that the odds will be lower than they are worth just from the garbage i'm reading here.......lol. i could not bet this horse on top for less than 40 or 50 to 1 and thats being kind.......lol

Sure everyone has a chance, and thats part of the game. Thats why I responded to the face of NYRA, and like always he came back with an insult. Im actually flattered. Its 2 weeks in a row now he comes out of no where and insults me, Im sure the avatar bothers him.
Back to the race, Im tossing the horses I mentioned above, I work a brutal 8am-9pm Saturday and will be putting all my bets in early, mostly pick 3 and 4's and maybe $300 for the day. If any of the above horses win I lose, Fly Down is one of my mains and Lezcano is so bad right now Im actually thinking about this.... Its a big race and a good discussion. WIll I cover Admiral ALex, maybe in a pick 3, likely not in the pick 4.

[blackthroatedwind]

I never see people's avatars....I blocked them when I joined.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never see people's avatars....I blocked them when I joined.

OK, well its a great pic of you.
I think they got your good side.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never see people's avatars....I blocked them when I joined.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

OK, well its a great pic of you.
I think they got your good side.

You believed him?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You believed him?

He has a reputation in the Saratoga/Ballston Spa area as being an honest guy.

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[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You believed him?

I actually really don't see people's avatars. It's one of the first things I learned to block when I started going to message boards.

Later I started blocking posters.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i have no problem with a discussion, everyone has put out some pretty valid points. But i don't think its productive to just defend a horses chances for the sake of conversation. it almost seems like he's taking the middle on this horse, thinks he has a chances, but wont bet on him.....well i think that about every horse in every race... i just don't make a production about it.

that being said i stand by what serling posted earlier... Bunky has no shot for win in my opinion, though his maiden voyage was impressive he didn't appear to be a world beater, i think the owner/trainer is beating a lot of pots and pans and the media is eating it up.

-bt-

Right.....it isn't Saturday yet. This is the time for open-ended discussion, not betting.
I've criticized PG85 about 500 times for declaring the winner of a race before the PPs even come out. For him to be discussing a colt's chances without either declaring him a superstar or calling him a worthless slug is actually pretty significant progress on his part.

As for me, I would want no part of the colt at anything less than about 40/1, if the field comes up as expected. He certainly could take a step forward in his second start, but he would have to improve dramatically while going 10f in just his second start. That seems unlikely.