Who beats Zenyatta if the BC was at SA this year?

[smuthg]

Rail Trip could potentialy have a shot if she's forced to go 14-wide by Mr. Smith.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Well - I think Zenyatta would probably run a well beaten 4th in the Classic this year if it was on synthetic - but like I said, she'd have no trouble beating the Americans home.

Three different unidentified Euro's would stomp her though.

[Thunder Gulch]

I know what you are saying about lack of proven synthetic runners, but she is barely beating absolute pigs now. Nobody stepped up last year, but that doesn't make it a cinch nobody would this time around.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I know what you are saying about lack of proven synthetic runners, but she is barely beating absolute pigs now. Nobody stepped up last year, but that doesn't make it a cinch nobody would this time around.

She's barely beating total pigs because of the way these races are being run.

If you put her in a race like the BC Classic on syn - it's going to be a big field - and it's going to have a lot of pace in it, it's more ground to work with. That suits her a whole lot better than slower paced races at shorter distances.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Well - I think Zenyatta would probably run a well beaten 4th in the Classic this year if it was on synthetic - but like I said, she'd have no trouble beating the Americans home.

Three different unidentified Euro's would stomp her though.

What is up with this Zenyatta bashing? Its been 2 weeks now. Do you really have nothing better to do up in Erie? Small town like that even a clown like you has to be popular. I know they hate you at PID, but go hang out there bang some ugly chicks, do something with yourself... Register in more contests, apply for TVG, do something.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Three different unidentified Euro's would stomp her though.

No way... only way she loses is trip.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by smuthg

No way... only way she loses is trip.

Trust me, all the good synthetic horses are in Europe racing on turf - the same place all of the good turf horses happen to be.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Trust me, all the good synthetic horses are in Europe racing on turf - the same place all of the good turf horses happen to be.

Then why didn't those good synthetic horses show up for the $10 Mil Dubai World Cup? I'm not questioning they fact that good turf horses in Europe wouldn't show up and run well on the Pro-Ride in the classic, but I don't think they would be any better than Zenyatta.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by smuthg

Then why didn't those good synthetic horses show up for the $10 Mil Dubai World Cup? I'm not questioning they fact that good turf horses in Europe wouldn't show up and run well on the Pro-Ride in the classic, but I don't think they would be any better than Zenyatta.

Gio Ponti and Twice Over were both off the board behind huge longshots in that stupid $10 Dubai race .. and further - they ran like a $6 million turf race and a $5 million turf race or something insane the same day.

Also - the best horses in Europe are typically given the winter off.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Gio Ponti and Twice Over were both off the board behind huge longshots in that stupid $10 Dubai race .. and further - they ran like a $6 million turf race and a $5 million turf race or something insane the same day.

Also - the best horses in Europe are typically given the winter off.

Name 3 who would beat her for sure on synthetics, your just saying the best are in Europe... So please just name 3.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Gio Ponti and Twice Over were both off the board behind huge longshots in that stupid $10 Dubai race .. and further - they ran like a $6 million turf race and a $5 million turf race or something insane the same day.

Also - the best horses in Europe are typically given the winter off.

didn't Gio run 4th beaten about a length? not like he was up the track...

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Trust me, all the good synthetic horses are in Europe racing on turf - the same place all of the good turf horses happen to be.

I guess the same question would apply to the 2008 Classic. I presume with this logic, you think she's 3rd merely outfinishing one of your all time favorite Tiago and behind Raven's Pass and Henry?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by smuthg

I guess the same question would apply to the 2008 Classic. I presume with this logic, you think she's 3rd merely outfinishing one of your all time favorite Tiago and behind Raven's Pass and Henry?

Only 3 Euro's showed up for that BC Classic edition .. and the exacta paid $319 with two Euro's running 1st and 2nd.

If it's 7 Euro's VS 7 Americans on synthetic you'd notice their dominance more. Instead, - it's more like 10 American horses VS 2.5 Euro's - and the Euro's have to fly halfway around the world to Santa Anita for the race.

How do you think Conduit would have done if he would have run in the BC Brown Turf instead of the BC Green Turf the last two years?

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Only 3 Euro's showed up for that BC Classic edition .. and the exacta paid $319 with two Euro's running 1st and 2nd.

If it's 7 Euro's VS 7 Americans on synthetic you'd notice their dominance more. Instead, - it's more like 10 American horses VS 2.5 Euro's - and the Euro's have to fly halfway around the world to Santa Anita for the race.

How do you think Conduit would have done if he would have run in the BC Brown Turf instead of the BC Green Turf the last two years?

2nd last year and probably 3rd the year before. And all we're talking about is Zenyatta. 1/2 to 2/3's of US horses didn't have a shot to begin with...