Raw Talent...

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Name the 5 most talented horses in the past 10 years, not the most accomplished or the ones with the most Grade 1's... Just those horses that we may have called freaks, all USA list.


Bernardini
Midnight Lute
Eskendereya
Point Given
Zenyatta

I usually think of horses who display brilliant speed and are able to perform best at a mile or better.

Ghostzapper
Discreet Cat
Quality Road
Hard Spun

[MISTERGEE]

how bout Mineshaft?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

how bout Mineshaft?

Lets wait for Randall to comment on him, he is the Mineshaft pro.


What do all these horses have in common?

Quest, Evening Attire, Hold that Tiger, Puzzlement, Volponi, Dollar Bill, Western Pride, Judges Case, American Style Mettron, Strive, Bonapaw, Learned, Discreet Hero, Majestic Theif, Moon Ballard, Revised Note, Roar Of The Tiger

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Lets wait for Randall to comment on him, he is the Mineshaft pro.


What do all these horses have in common?

Quest, Evening Attire, Hold that Tiger, Puzzlement, Volponi, Dollar Bill, Western Pride, Judges Case, American Style Mettron, Strive, Bonapaw, Learned, Discreet Hero, Majestic Theif, Moon Ballard, Revised Note, Roar Of The Tiger

I'm not familiar with half of them but of the ones I recognize I'll say they finished second and third more times than they won.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I'm not familiar with half of them but of the ones I recognize I'll say they finished second and third more times than they won.

Its basicley the 2-3 finishers from all of Mineshafts races, and you not being familiar with half of them says it all IMO. Mineshaft, I guess was ok, but losing to Perfect Drift and the best horse you ever beat being Volponi does not say much IMO.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its basicley the 2-3 finishers from all of Mineshafts races, and you not being familiar with half of them says it all IMO. Mineshaft, I guess was ok, but losing to Perfect Drift and the best horse you ever beat being Volponi does not say much IMO.

I wouldn't use my memory as a gauge of anything. I thought Bonapaw was a midwest sprinter. Which race did he finish behind mineshaft ?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I wouldn't use my memory as a gauge of anything. I thought Bonapaw was a midwest sprinter. Which race did he finish behind mineshaft ?

2/9/03 Fairgrounds... It was a Grade 3 that Balto Star actually won, Mineshaft finished second, less then a length ahead of Bonapaw.
After that race is when he appears to have got really good, winning 6/7 and all 7 races he beyered 114 or higher.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its basicley the 2-3 finishers from all of Mineshafts races, and you not being familiar with half of them says it all IMO. Mineshaft, I guess was ok, but losing to Perfect Drift and the best horse you ever beat being Volponi does not say much IMO.

I know people dont really care about weight but he did give PD 8 pounds that day. It was one of the better losing efforts Ive seen.

Discreet Cat was the freakiest horse Ive seen over the past decade..

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I usually think of horses who display brilliant speed and are able to perform best at a mile or better.

Ghostzapper
Discreet Cat
Quality Road
Hard Spun

I totally agree with this list, Ghostzapper is likely the most brillant of them all.

[CSC]

Single race, who wins? Ghostzapper vs. Candy Ride in the 2003 Pacific Classic.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

Single race, who wins? Ghostzapper vs. Candy Ride in the 2003 Pacific Classic.

I was waiting for someone to bring up the brilliant, fantastic, raw talent freak Candy Ride.

NT

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I was waiting for someone to bring up the brilliant, fantastic, raw talent freak Candy Ride.

NT

Please dont go there. Candy Ride was A BEAST. He is also on my list. He is 1a.