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Welcome back,
If you think that's bad, check the entries for the JCGC... |
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What was Bold Ruler's record going into that race?
Discreet Cat is visually impressive, but his record was not all that accomplished. |
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The Jerome was Bold Ruler's 11th start as a 3YO and 21st overall. Wouldn't you have liked to have seen Discreet Cat run 21 times by now? Regardless ... it's the track handicapper's job to use weight to make the race into a sporting (and betting) contest. No effort whatsoever was made to accomplish that. Why call it a "handicap" when anyone who understands racing knows that it isn't? What an insult to our intelligence and knowledge. Just call it the Jerome Public Workout ... and show a little honesty. Disgraceful. |
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My explanation would be simply to make the purses increase considerably for each grade of stakes races, maybe making it more enticing for owners and trainers to enter horses in races to at least try to catch a decent check. Currently there are too many equal pursed stakes races across the country with a lack of decent or qualified horses to run in them. What this allows is for trainers and owners to pick their spots, if a owner/trainer feels their horse isn't a stand out or at least a legit threat to win a certain stakes race, they simply do not enter and wait for an easier spot down the road. This is why horses only run a few times a year in comparison to years past, and why the horses continue to be more fragile in each generation. |
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Wouldn't you have liked to have seen Discreet Cat run 21 times by now?
LOL, I would settle for Discreet Cat to have started 10 times so far instead of his 4. Its Ghostzapper all over again. One can only wonder how much better most horses would be able to run if they only started 3 or 4 times per year. I feel bad for anybody who wasnt following horse racing back in the 80's or early 90's. Its gone so far downhill since then. |
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you got that right gander........ i remember my first big cap in 1986, there were horses form cali, new york plus the heavy hitters from the mid west. gate dancer, greinton, alphabatim ect....... now its a complete joke.
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It is precisely the racing secretary's job to do his best to make sure that the horses who occupy the barn space also make regular appearances on the track. Full fields in competitive races are the very essence of being a racing secretary. |
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The Secretary can book many races in which large amount of horses fit the conditions, but it still doesn't mean owners/trainers will enter. They book races in hopes to have large fields, obviously meaning larger pools, but when you have limited horses that fit conditions, which is what racing is facing in NY and CA, your hands are tied. We often see Secretaries book stakes races with a purses of $150k to 500k and they are regularly getting 4-7 horses entered, that is a huge problem. There are too many stakes races in this country with too few of qualified horses to run in them. Hence, leaving it easy for owners/trainers of the decent horses to pick and choose their spots avoiding the tougher races for easier ones, padding their earnings, and stealing purses just about all year long. We cannot blame them, they are not breaking any rules, but this is something that needs to be addressed in the US or the quality of stakes racing will continue to dwindle. A perfect example is the Super Derby. Not usually regarded as a great stakes race, but still offers a late season Grade II $500k purse for 3yo's only. They basically got no one of note to enter besides 3 suspect comeback horses and 5 tin cans. |
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However ... though you are correct in what you say ... my point was that the NYRA handicapper had not only an opportunity ... but an obligation ... to the bettors and to the sport ... to assign a weight to Discreet Cat which would have made the race more competitive and more interesting. And the Sheik had an obligation to accept whatever weight was assigned. What was the point of having Discreet Cat run off by double-digit lengths? He was a brilliant talent running against palookas ... so at least use the one available option ... weight ... to provide some sort of story line for the race. The headline ... "Discreet Cat Wins By 4 Toting 134 Pounds" ... is a bit more eye-catching and of historic value ... than "Discreet Cat Romps Over Nothing." |
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I saw that Discreet Cat race live. He destroyed those horses. Our friends brother knows everything about horses and he said Discreet Cat is the best horse in the world but Bernardini will be better in the shed. Something like that. |
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We don't care what your brother says....much less what your friend's brother says.. Are you a friggen imbecile? Ez |
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