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Old 07-21-2010, 03:37 PM
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I haven't heard of any of these horse ( Rachel excluded )
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:38 PM
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:40 PM
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It's an absolutely pitiful field, but there are a few who have some speed.

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Old 07-21-2010, 03:42 PM
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It's an absolutely pitiful field, but there are a few who have some speed.

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What does that mean? She should get a Mother Goose like trip and win by 25... Ughhh only if Icon Project was still in training.
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:44 PM
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Chuck,
I think next time you can't get one of Bob's horses entered you should call up Monmouth and let them know that while you may not be running Rachel Alexandra, you're bringing Mr. Chicago and you'd like your own race carded.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:19 PM
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I think next time you can't get one of Bob's horses entered you should call up Monmouth and let them know that while you may not be running Rachel Alexandra, you're bringing Mr. Chicago and you'd like your own race carded.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:34 PM
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The over/under on starters is 5 1/2
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:46 PM
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What does that mean? She should get a Mother Goose like trip and win by 25... Ughhh only if Icon Project was still in training.
Hopefully she's reversed the trend but the confidence that there was last year when Rachel took on her own sex does not exist this year.

That being said, she could probably win the race if they gave those other crows a 70 yd head start.

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Old 07-21-2010, 03:56 PM
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Im sure Rachel will win if any of us were the jockey as long as we stay in the saddle.
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Old 07-21-2010, 04:10 PM
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Well Zenyatta keeps winning, so Im guessing in order to see them together Rachel needs to win, lets not forget the 2 shitty defeats to start the year. Lets also not forget the 2 horses who beat her, both came back to lose. Hopefully Rachel wins by 20 and since the Z camp won commit to Del Mar maybe serious talks about the Personal Ensign will heat up, especially with the detention barn being gone now. The same connections had a bad time with Giacomo in the detention barn, a few years back in the Belmont.
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:17 AM
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Hopefully she's reversed the trend but the confidence that there was last year when Rachel took on her own sex does not exist this year.

That being said, she could probably win the race if they gave those other crows a 70 yd head start.

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I really don't think this is fair to actual crows out there, who would provide a much more entertaining race for Rachel on Saturday.
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:41 PM
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and yet people still criticize who Zenyatta runs against. I can find a trotter to beat this field.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:35 PM
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and yet people still criticize who Zenyatta runs against. I can find a trotter to beat this field.
You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's equally pathetic campaign.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:36 PM
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You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's pathetic campaign.
What do you not understand? Rachel and Z were supposed to run at Oaklawn, who showed up and cruised, payed workout and who was home?
I dont understand why this is such an argument, Z ran in the biggest race last year and showed up at Oaklawn.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:37 PM
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What do you not understand? Rachel and Z were supposed to run at Oaklawn, who showed up and cruised, payed workout and who was home?
I dont understand why this is such an argument, Z ran in the biggest race last year and showed up at Oaklawn.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:48 PM
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Its funny super fly mod, or whatever you call yourself. Its funny and typical of you, when you have nothing at all to say, no response, nothing intelligent. You then resort to taking cheap personal shots.
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:01 PM
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You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's equally pathetic campaign.
I do not believe anyone pointing out this fabricated race at Monmouth is looking to validate or excuse what you call Zenyatta's pathetic campaign .

Zenyatta could have been more ambitiously placed, but her campaign this year absolutely does trump Rachel's--and it remains a perfect score .

I can not see how that is difficult for you .

50 percent of Rachel's races have been tailored for her, and she has lost 2/3 of her efforts to date .

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored for her, and they have been grade 1 races exclusively including handicaps .

Both mares have been running on easy street this year, but so far Rachel's has simply been the more pathetic course .
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:05 PM
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I do not believe anyone pointing out this fabricated race at Monmouth is looking to validate or excuse what you call Zenyatta's pathetic campaign .

Zenyatta could have been more ambitiously placed, but her campaign this year absolutely does trump Rachel's--and it remains a perfect score .

I can not see how that is difficult for you .

50 percent of Rachel's races have been tailored for her, and she has lost 2/3 of her efforts to date .

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored for her, and they have been grade 1 races exclusively including handicaps .

Both mares have been running on easy street this year, but so far Rachel's has simply been the more pathetic course .
You can't be serious. Every one of Zenyatta's efforts in rubberworld is "tailored" for her. She gets the same lousy class of mare every single time on the same dumbass surface. Their campaigns have been equally gutless, and if it's not exactly equal, it's a difference so small it's not worth arguing about.

My point, which you missed, was that it continues to be the Zenyatta fans who invoke the "other" horse in these discussions in a desperate need to validate their paper champion.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:31 PM
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You can't be serious. Every one of Zenyatta's efforts in rubberworld is "tailored" for her. She gets the same lousy class of mare every single time on the same dumbass surface. Their campaigns have been equally gutless, and if it's not exactly equal, it's a difference so small it's not worth arguing about.

My point, which you missed, was that it continues to be the Zenyatta fans who invoke the "other" horse in these discussions in a desperate need to validate their paper champion.
Clearly you missed my point--and a paper champion is an opinion.

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored by her connections specifically, they have been filled by whatever horses would enter such races , knowing in advance when they are scheduled as well ...

I have no need to validate the horse I think is better by running down the other--et tu ???

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Old 07-21-2010, 06:07 PM
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I do not believe anyone pointing out this fabricated race at Monmouth is looking to validate or excuse what you call Zenyatta's pathetic campaign .

Zenyatta could have been more ambitiously placed, but her campaign this year absolutely does trump Rachel's--and it remains a perfect score .

I can not see how that is difficult for you .

50 percent of Rachel's races have been tailored for her, and she has lost 2/3 of her efforts to date .

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored for her, and they have been grade 1 races exclusively including handicaps .

Both mares have been running on easy street this year, but so far Rachel's has simply been the more pathetic course .
I wouldnt be so quick to trumpet Zenyatta's handicap races as she hasnt been given a fair weight in at least a year.

You have to try very hard to find a softer path than Zenyatta has taken. But it looks like Ol Jess has accomplished that.

This field is a joke.
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