Rachel to Monmouth on July 24...

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, well, I'd love to see Z take on a decent horse that was in good form and race ready.

You must've missed Z's last (record-setting) race where she had to spot nine pounds to a real nice mare.

At least Steve D. was impressed…

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, well, I'd love to see Z take on a decent horse that was in good form and race ready.

Not gonna see either happen, now are we?

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

You must've missed Z's last (record-setting) race where she had to spot nine pounds to a real nice mare.

At least Steve D. was impressed…

You musta missed the bolded part of my post.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

You must've missed Z's last (record-setting) race where she had to spot nine pounds to a real nice mare.

At least Steve D. was impressed…

what record did she set?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what record did she set?

The one for number of meaningless watered down Grade I victories propped up by internet mouthbreathers as great accomplishments.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The one for number of meaningless watered down Grade I victories propped up by internet mouthbreathers as great accomplishments.

i figured he meant wins in a row, but she didn't set a wins in a row record. pepper's pride, much as bloodhorse, tvg and zenyatta fans wish to pretend otherwise, holds the modern-day wins record.
it's pretty bad when they have to come up with some convoluted 'wins in a row by a horse not running in restricted races...er, restricted to state bred races... record. oh, don't forget 'modern day'...passed cigar and citation-but somehowe mr frisky and hallowed dreams usually don't get mentioned! it's hilarious.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i figured he meant wins in a row, but she didn't set a wins in a row record. pepper's pride, much as bloodhorse, tvg and zenyatta fans wish to pretend otherwise, holds the modern-day wins record.
it's pretty bad when they have to come up with some convoluted 'wins in a row by a horse not running in restricted races...er, restricted to state bred races... record. oh, don't forget 'modern day'...passed cigar and citation-but somehowe mr frisky and hallowed dreams usually don't get mentioned! it's hilarious.

Hence

the term

Zenyattard.

[Danzig]

http://startelegramsports.typepad.co...the-grade.html

an interesting article by gary west about rachels next race. make sure you read the comments section as well, with GW going into more detail about past racing...

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://startelegramsports.typepad.co...the-grade.html

an interesting article by gary west about rachels next race. make sure you read the comments section as well, with GW going into more detail about past racing...

Great read. Thanks for finding that.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://startelegramsports.typepad.co...the-grade.html

an interesting article by gary west about rachels next race. make sure you read the comments section as well, with GW going into more detail about past racing...

West's points are not exactly valid. First of all if someone would tell me why the added money is a big deal I could stomach it a little better. Just taken at face value considering the horse and owner it looks a little greedy. I am not against anyone making money and can't knock a track for adding money from its own pocket to entice a big draw but as Freddy would say, 90k is a drop in the bucket for Jackson. Come out and say you want to try to break the record for earnings for a filly if that is the goal. Of course he may not want to say that in case Zenyatta winds up with that title. Acting as though Monmouth didnt pander by not only raising the purse but date of the race and distance is well typical from this writer concerning anything Asmussen related.

The comparison to Kelso was incredibly stupid. Top horses of that era often tuned up in non stakes races between starts, you know sometimes like 5 or 6 days, not weeks, before the next race? The fact is that not only was there no grading system then, there were also a whole lot fewer stakes and transportation was a lot more complicated than it is now. For horses of that era, 17 starts was a season, not a career.

The other cases are laughable. How many horses did Damascus duck? Why wouldnt Holy Bull start his campaign in a sprint stake? That was how it was done then. Favorite Trick? As a 3 year old? LOL. He was a punching bag by that point. The irony in bringing up FT is she is certainly challenging his 3 year old campaign as the weakest by a returning horse of the year.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The one for number of meaningless watered down Grade I victories propped up by internet mouthbreathers as great accomplishments.

If you are going to criticize grade 1's as being watered down, atleast have the integrity, consistency, or honesty take your pick I don't care... and recognize the Woodward field was a watered down mediocrity last year.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by CSC

If you are going to criticize grade 1's as being watered down, atleast have the integrity, consistency, or honesty take your pick I don't care... and recognize the Woodward field was a watered down mediocrity last year.

you lose.