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Old 07-05-2010, 05:45 PM
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Aren't exotics part of the mutuel pool?

As for the 20% thing, it was obviously an exaggeration to make a point. I dont' even think DrugS said that is his ROI. But even if it wasn't, do you really think someone can have a +20% over a whole meet on 4 to 1 shots? The bigger the odds, the bigger the effect of a single wager.
So now you're backtracking? CJ, you're better than this. I know that.

No, exotics are not part of the mutuel pool size listing. Again, here's the chart from the last race run at PID. http://drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesIndex...=20100703&RN=8 The WPS ("mutuel") pool was $14,219; EX $10,273; TRI $8,660; SUP $2,402 (all pre-takeout numbers of course.)

Can someone have a +20% over a whole meet on 4-1 shots? Sure. Bet 1,000 races at 4-1 and win 240 of them. Someone can have a +20% ROI on 1/5 shots... if they run the table.

One thing that should be noted is horses that are long odds at tracks like PID are huge underlays. Many of them have virtually no chance of winning... are absolute talentless cripples... yet even the token $300 total bet on them causes them to go off at 20-1.
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:35 PM
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One thing that should be noted is horses that are long odds at tracks like PID are huge underlays. Many of them have virtually no chance of winning... are absolute talentless cripples...
If these horses are breaking from the rail post and have speed ... they aren't entirely hopeless.









One of my favorite races of the meet so far was this one ....

http://www.drf.com/drfNCWeeklyHorseD...00526&raceNo=3

A 66/1 shot winner goes wire-to-wire .. and a 40/1 shot 2nd place finisher is 2nd at every call. They are basically isolated in front of the rest of the field the whole way and no one even threatens them at any point.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:28 AM
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This is pretty close to Iavarone...no wonder the horse is a total loser without an extreme track bias.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:11 AM
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That horse is nothing like iavarone. He paid his bill once when he won........that makes them different.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:53 PM
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If these horses are breaking from the rail post and have speed ... they aren't entirely hopeless.









One of my favorite races of the meet so far was this one ....

http://www.drf.com/drfNCWeeklyHorseD...00526&raceNo=3

A 66/1 shot winner goes wire-to-wire .. and a 40/1 shot 2nd place finisher is 2nd at every call. They are basically isolated in front of the rest of the field the whole way and no one even threatens them at any point.
A piece of $hi+ without balls named Iavarone.
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