7/3-5 (BEL): Suburban (G2); Prioress (G1); Bed of Roses (G3)

[blackthroatedwind]

I'm not very smart, so bear with me....but how is prefacing a statement with " he could " incorrect?

By the way, I Want Revenge has gone from " suspect returning from an injury " to " mortal lock " with your gibberish.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

By the way, I Want Revenge has gone from " suspect returning from an injury " to " mortal lock " with your gibberish.

Has Rudy or Sidney taken over the training of the horse?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not very smart, so bear with me....but how is prefacing a statement with " he could " incorrect?

By the way, I Want Revenge has gone from " suspect returning from an injury " to " mortal lock " with your gibberish.

I could be better then you?

I could be president?

Very silly, right?

Its just my opinion Andy, your likely right.... I just dont think he is much.
I do have to defend myself a little, and I dont think anything I said was gibberish. Also, I said not likely to happen, the older crop is not **** like last year, he would have to come back as good and then improve to be the best.

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The Prioress is usually a really good race between the Acorn and the Test, any idea why it attracted such a small field?

[blackthroatedwind]

Once again, since you didn't answer my question, how is saying " he could " wrong?

Regardless of your opinion, which whether good or bad can be wrong, I Want Revenge was the pre-Derby co-favorite with Quality Road, and the favorite when that one was scratched. His two dirt races last year were tremendous. Of course he is tremendously suspect on Saturday. That goes without saying. But, that doesn't change the possibility that he COULD pick up where he left off last year. Yes, I too will believe it when I see it, but that doesn't change the existance of the possibility.

[NTamm1215]

I'm no veterinarian but wasn't IWR's injury one that horses normally don't return from or are rarely the same afterwards?

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm no veterinarian but wasn't IWR's injury one that horses normally don't return from or are rarely the same afterwards?

NT

So it seems....but are we absolutely sure what exactly was wrong with him and haven't there been some recent advances treating his supposed injury?

Believe me, I'm dubious, or at least was until reading some recent posting here. Now I can't see him losing.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So it seems....but are we absolutely sure what exactly was wrong with him and haven't there been some recent advances treating his supposed injury?

Believe me, I'm dubious, or at least was until reading some recent posting here. Now I can't see him losing.

What has been stated here is nearly identical to him starting the race at the 1 1/16th mile mark and being able to run without Talamo.

I'll say this much, I'm not betting IWR but this race should set up beautifully for him.

NT

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Once again, since you didn't answer my question, how is saying " he could " wrong?

Regardless of your opinion, which whether good or bad can be wrong, I Want Revenge was the pre-Derby co-favorite with Quality Road, and the favorite when that one was scratched. His two dirt races last year were tremendous. Of course he is tremendously suspect on Saturday. That goes without saying. But, that doesn't change the possibility that he COULD pick up where he left off last year. Yes, I too will believe it when I see it, but that doesn't change the existance of the possibility.

Direct answer to your question....
I never said you were wrong, go read it again... My exact words were, "So manys reassons why thats not likely to happen"

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Direct answer to your question....
I never said you were wrong, go read it again... My exact words were, "So manys reassons why thats not likely to happen"

I know what you wrote. It was a veiled cheap shot.

Be a man if you're going to do it in the future.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I know what you wrote. It was a veiled cheap shot.

Be a man if you're going to do it in the future.

It was not that cheap, if anything it was borderline. Not meant to argue either just discuss horse/race.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm no veterinarian but wasn't IWR's injury one that horses normally don't return from or are rarely the same afterwards?

NT

From what I know, you are correct.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So it seems....but are we absolutely sure what exactly was wrong with him and haven't there been some recent advances treating his supposed injury?

Believe me, I'm dubious, or at least was until reading some recent posting here. Now I can't see him losing.

By all reports I've heard it was a suspensory, which in my only slightly-above-layman's understanding is when it is severely injured it's like a rubber band that has been stretched too far. It rarely regains it's previous strength/form. There supposedly has been advances in electromagnetic treatments, but I still think it's still pretty dubious. Let's face it, if there was any stallion market at ALL out there he would have been long gone. I think it's 1 in 10 that he returns to his previous form.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

From what I know, you are correct.



By all reports I've heard it was a suspensory, which in my only slightly-above-layman's understanding is when it is severely injured it's like a rubber band that has been stretched too far. It rarely regains it's previous strength/form. There supposedly has been advances in electromagnetic treatments, but I still think it's still pretty dubious. Let's face it, if there was any stallion market at ALL out there he would have been long gone. I think it's 1 in 10 that he returns to his previous form.

Phil, you know I'm the last guy to believe the hype, and you are most likely right about the stallion situation, but it's still pretty intriguing. I guess you could say I am wishing he could come back, despite the odds ( 10% seems low but it may be fair ), as the prospect would be pretty cool. I like Blame, but let's be serious, he hasn't done enough on the track right now to be considered a serious threat to Quality Road. If anything, right now, HE feels like the bet against ( I realize he's not the favorite ) in the Whitney. As long a shot as it seems, and probably is, the sexiest matchup would be Quality Road/I Want Revenge. It doesn't appear we are getting the other matchup everybody wants ( at least any time soon ) so why not dream.

I picked I Want Revenge Saturday because he actually feels like the wise guy pick....as nobody seems to like him. I know, he's the favorite, but you know what I mean.

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Given the connections, I hope he is eased....uninjured of course.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Phil, you know I'm the last guy to believe the hype, and you are most likely right about the stallion situation, but it's still pretty intriguing. I guess you could say I am wishing he could come back, despite the odds ( 10% seems low but it may be fair ), as the prospect would be pretty cool. I like Blame, but let's be serious, he hasn't done enough on the track right now to be considered a serious threat to Quality Road. If anything, right now, HE feels like the bet against ( I realize he's not the favorite ) in the Whitney. As long a shot as it seems, and probably is, the sexiest matchup would be Quality Road/I Want Revenge. It doesn't appear we are getting the other matchup everybody wants ( at least any time soon ) so why not dream.

I picked I Want Revenge Saturday because he actually feels like the wise guy pick....as nobody seems to like him. I know, he's the favorite, but you know what I mean.

We need all the good horses we can get right now, and I'll hold my nose about the human connections and hope he comes back 100%. He could actually be really good, unlike a lot of these plugs that make up the handicap division. Blame has done a lot of good but he really isn't a threat to QR, no. Regal Ransom could be really good- cross a line through the synthetic races and the Derby and he's 5/3-2-0. I guess as a fan I'm rooting for those two to come back 100% but as a bettor I wouldn't want to take 7/5 or 2/1. If the morning line is wrong, and it's more like 5/2 and 3/1... I'll reconsider, but I think Eric has it right.