Obama Admin. to Sue Arizona

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You think he's passed Bush? Clearly you can't be that much of a partisan. Bush was wrapped up in the final eighth and Obama would have to sprout wings to get to him.

I think they are neck and neck.. which is not saying much.

Seriously though, how has Obama been better than Bush? (& I thought Bush sucked) They are equally incompetant.. Obama just speaks better.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think they are neck and neck.. which is not saying much.

Seriously though, how has Obama been better than Bush? (& I thought Bush sucked) They are equally incompetant.. Obama just speaks better.

Stra-tee-gery

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think they are neck and neck.. which is not saying much.

Seriously though, how has Obama been better than Bush? (& I thought Bush sucked) They are equally incompetant.. Obama just speaks better.

obama speaks better when he's got prepared remarks. ask him a question, and he becomes inarticulate just like bush. um, uh....er, um.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

obama speaks better when he's got prepared remarks. ask him a question, and he becomes inarticulate just like bush. um, uh....er, um.

After Obama said he was a Sox fan, Dibble asked him who is his favorite player? Obama's answer was he likes the Cubs too.

BTW I can't wait for the FBI to release their interview with Obama in relation to Blago. OB says he and staff had no converstions with Blago concerning his vacant senate seat. Blago speaking on a wire tap says different. The truth should come out soon.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

After Obama said he was a Sox fan, Dibble asked him who is his favorite player? Obama's answer was he likes the Cubs too.

BTW I can't wait for the FBI to release their interview with Obama in relation to Blago. OB says he and staff had no converstions with Blago concerning his vacant senate seat. Blago speaking on a wire tap says different. The truth should come out soon.

Agreed! I expect Rolling Stone to be all over this shortly

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Agreed! I expect Rolling Stone to be all over this shortly

Here's a start, "Emanuel, now Obama's chief of staff, wanted Blagojevich to know the list of Senate candidates "acceptable" to Obama, according to testimony Thursday in Blagojevich's corruption trial."

"Emanuel's talk with Harris with a new, diverse list of candidates came two days after Emanuel called Blagojevich friend and lobbyist John Wyma with a different message, according to Harris' testimony."

"Wyma had contact with Emanuel and then made the call on his behalf on Nov. 10 -- several weeks after he began cooperating with federal authorities and had been asked to wear a wire, which Wyma refused.

"The president-elect would be very pleased if you appointed Valerie and he would be, uh, thankful and appreciative" for an appointment, Harris said Wyma told him in a phone call.

That put the brakes on Blagojevich's hopes that he could win a Cabinet position or another high-ranking, high-paying appointment in exchange for Jarrett's appointment. Blagojevich had told Balanoff the week before that he wanted Obama to give him a Cabinet position, Harris said."

So is Harris committing perjury or did Obama lie once again to all of us?

BTW lying to the people is not a crime. Lying to an FBI agent is.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Here's a start, "Emanuel, now Obama's chief of staff, wanted Blagojevich to know the list of Senate candidates "acceptable" to Obama, according to testimony Thursday in Blagojevich's corruption trial.".

Dell, do you recall this being in the news last year?

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyW9e...eature=related

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

obama speaks better when he's got prepared remarks. ask him a question, and he becomes inarticulate just like bush. um, uh....er, um.

Naw, c'mon, that's not true in the least. Where does this stuff come from? There are multiple TV interviews where he's speaking entirely extemporaneously, for minutes on end, no notes, articulate and knowledgable.

Palin could run rings around even Bush, however.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Naw, c'mon, that's not true in the least. Where does this stuff come from? There are multiple TV interviews where he's speaking entirely extemporaneously, for minutes on end, no notes, articulate and knowledgable.

Palin could run rings around even Bush, however.

not true 'in the least'??

i've seen him stammer and stutter more than once, thanks very much. so, yes it is true. you not wanting something to be true doesn't automatically mean it's false.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Naw, c'mon, that's not true in the least. Where does this stuff come from? There are multiple TV interviews where he's speaking entirely extemporaneously, for minutes on end, no notes, articulate and knowledgable.

Palin could run rings around even Bush, however.

And ALWAYS stays on point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX0PSoCTFas

[Danzig]

thing is, many of those interviews have the questions laid out in advance. it's when there are off the cuff questions that he starts with the uh.....um....uh.....


but, yeah. no truth at all in that. i'm just making it all up because i have an agenda. it's not because i've actually witnessed it in action or anything.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

thing is, many of those interviews have the questions laid out in advance. it's when there are off the cuff questions that he starts with the uh.....um....uh.....


but, yeah. no truth at all in that. i'm just making it all up because i have an agenda. it's not because i've actually witnessed it in action or anything.

So we just ignore the parts where he doesn't do any of the uh ... stuff, and speaks on and on for minutes?

Sure

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And ALWAYS stays on point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX0PSoCTFas

lol
you know, it's a petty point...but it's still funny. i think it's akin to sarah palin not being able to name any founding fathers- i like them all-she said.

i've been a die-hard redskin fan my entire life. i can even name the freaking punter from way back when (mike bragg, wore #4. mark mosely, one of the last straight on kickers was #3)....there is no way i'd ever change teams. been a caps fan since their inception-i was eight. it's hard pulling for those teams now, living down here. but i still do it.


but he's a politician, none of them can give a straight answer on anything.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not true 'in the least'?? i've seen him stammer and stutter more than once, thanks very much. so, yes it is true. you not wanting something to be true doesn't automatically mean it's false.

Since when is having the irritating speech pattern habit (yes, I do find it irritating) of inserting "uh" as one forms sentences defined as "stutter and stammer" or, more ridiculously, "inarticulate"?

Calling Obama - well known for his public speaking ability - "inarticulate" is yes, pretty beyond absurd

You guys don't have to like listening to him, but classifying him "as inarticulate as Bush" is beyond a stretch

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Since when is having the irritating speech pattern habit (yes, I do find it irritating) of inserting "uh" as one forms sentences defined as "stutter and stammer" or, more ridiculously, "inarticulate"?

Calling Obama - well known for his public speaking ability - "inarticulate" is yes, pretty beyond absurd

You guys don't have to like listening to him, but classifying him "as inarticulate as Bush" is beyond a stretch

i find it annoying, but not nearly as annoying as repeated 'you know?'s or 'like'....

and i think it's a stretch to say that someone is a good speaker based solely on prepared remarks. however, when obama is not prepared, he's a big uhm-er. do you think someone sounds articulate when they say uh, um repeatedly? i didn't say he was inarticulate, i said when he stammers and makes noises while formulating a response that makes him sound that way. big difference.