Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > The Steve Dellinger Discourse Den
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-23-2010, 07:35 AM
joeydb's Avatar
joeydb joeydb is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 3,044
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Obama will be re-elected in a landslide at this point.
LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-23-2010, 07:39 AM
GBBob GBBob is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeydb View Post
LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.
I wouldn't have used the phrase "landslide", but you do have to wonder who the Right will end up with. Your "movement"..love that term for them by the way is going to help more than hurt the righties chances.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-23-2010, 07:44 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,943
Default

it's too soon to tell what will happen in the next election. if it were held right now, regardless of who the right ran, obama would be in for a fight. two wars that obama was supposed to end that continue to drag on, an unpopular health bill, high unemployment, higher debt, higher spending, an oil leak that shows no sign of abating or being fixed....

it wasn't that long ago, after clinton left and bush took over, that people were eulogizing the democratic party. things change, and will change again.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-23-2010, 09:03 AM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

One thing I am comfortable saying is, if Cap and Trade passes, Obama has absolutely no shot. His approval ratings will be 2008 Bush like. People care about their paycheck more than they do about the President.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-23-2010, 09:56 AM
joeydb's Avatar
joeydb joeydb is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 3,044
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32 View Post
One thing I am comfortable saying is, if Cap and Trade passes, Obama has absolutely no shot. His approval ratings will be 2008 Bush like. People care about their paycheck more than they do about the President.
Maybe you're right. But unless we UNDO the travesties of ObamaCare and, God forbid, "Cap and Trade", then it's "the left steps forward, and the right steps nowhere, until the left wins again."

We've got to start cutting out some of this cancer.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-23-2010, 08:51 AM
joeydb's Avatar
joeydb joeydb is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 3,044
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBBob View Post
I wouldn't have used the phrase "landslide", but you do have to wonder who the Right will end up with. Your "movement"..love that term for them by the way is going to help more than hurt the righties chances.
By all means -- yeah, we don't know who the other candidate will be. I was just amazed that Riot was so certain about the landslide given the same (lack of) information.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-23-2010, 10:16 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeydb View Post
By all means -- yeah, we don't know who the other candidate will be. I was just amazed that Riot was so certain about the landslide given the same (lack of) information.
There is one thing that I am certain of, that Riot will distort anything obama-related regardless of circumstances.

The GOP may be smart by playing it close to the vest with its next potential candidate. By shortening the time between the emergence of the top person and the election, they are lessening the amount of time to dig up dirt, keeping the pressure on obama, and being able to quickly gain momentum with a new guy who the general public doesnt have any opinion about a la Obama especially if things continue to go the way they are in this country.

Of course they may just be a bunch of idiots who dont have a clue like Riot believes but then again they got her to vote for George Bush so they may just have something up their sleeve.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-23-2010, 11:09 AM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
There is one thing that I am certain of, that Riot will distort anything obama-related regardless of circumstances.
And I used to think you were a better man.
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-23-2010, 12:39 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

I have slipped for sure without my HgH shots
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-23-2010, 11:00 AM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeydb View Post
LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.
Who do you think can beat him?

I think "landslide" will be appropriate by the time 2012 comes around, unless the GOP can make a case for itself as something more than the party of Glenn & Rush & Michelle Bachmann & Palin, etc
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-23-2010, 12:54 PM
dellinger63's Avatar
dellinger63 dellinger63 is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 10,072
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Who do you think can beat him?

I think "landslide" will be appropriate by the time 2012 comes around, unless the GOP can make a case for itself as something more than the party of Glenn & Rush & Michelle Bachmann & Palin, etc

You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?
__________________
“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-23-2010, 01:12 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dellinger63 View Post
You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?
You are slipping too
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-23-2010, 05:04 PM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dellinger63 View Post
You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?
For those with Obama Derangement Syndrome it will obviously be an easy vote for "anyone but".

That's not the majority of the US. It's a most obvious minority. And a statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc) that is literally getting less numerous as the years go by. The election, as always, will be decided by those in the middle.

Again: who can beat him? It's mid-2010, where are the candidates? Name one remotely viable GOP candidate - especially since the 2012 GOP Convention will be in Tampa.

BTW, this week several GOP congressional candidates for this fall are having BP-sponsored fundraisers. Nothing like advertising you are sucking down BP oil money, in the midst of the greatest environmental disaster ever.
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-23-2010, 05:13 PM
hoovesupsideyourhead's Avatar
hoovesupsideyourhead hoovesupsideyourhead is offline
"The Kentucky Killing Machine"
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: florida
Posts: 16,279
Default

statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc

so what are you trying to say here..southern blacks love him..wrong..

you can add about 100,000 cajun oil workers[ deep well] and the ships that supply them and the truckers that bring the supplys and the mechanic that works on the trucks ect ect ect.. that hes trying to phuck over.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-23-2010, 09:00 PM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

[quote]
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead View Post
statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc

so what are you trying to say here..southern blacks love him..wrong..
Uh ... no. That's opposite to what I wrote.
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-23-2010, 06:22 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,102
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
For those with Obama Derangement Syndrome it will obviously be an easy vote for "anyone but".

That's not the majority of the US. It's a most obvious minority. And a statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc) that is literally getting less numerous as the years go by. The election, as always, will be decided by those in the middle.

Again: who can beat him? It's mid-2010, where are the candidates? Name one remotely viable GOP candidate - especially since the 2012 GOP Convention will be in Tampa.

BTW, this week several GOP congressional candidates for this fall are having BP-sponsored fundraisers. Nothing like advertising you are sucking down BP oil money, in the midst of the greatest environmental disaster ever.
Obama didn't even beat McCain that easily. I think he beat him by about 6 percentage points. And that was when Obama was popular.

Obama's numbers are in the toilet right now. His approval rating is around 43%. If the election were tomorrow, Obama would have practically no chance of winning. His only chance would be if there was a 3rd party candidate that took votes away from the Republican candidate. Other than that, Obama would have practically no chance right now.

I would be saying the same thing right now, no matter who the President was and no matter what party they were in. A President with a 43% approval rating cannot win an election. It's basically impossible. That doesn't mean Obama can't win in 2 1/2 years from now. A lot can change in 2 1/2 years. Maybe his numbers will go up. But if the election were tomorrow, he would have no chance. Anybody could beat him right now.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-23-2010, 09:21 PM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin View Post
Obama didn't even beat McCain that easily. I think he beat him by about 6 percentage points. And that was when Obama was popular.

Obama's numbers are in the toilet right now. His approval rating is around 43%. If the election were tomorrow, Obama would have practically no chance of winning. His only chance would be if there was a 3rd party candidate that took votes away from the Republican candidate. Other than that, Obama would have practically no chance right now.

I would be saying the same thing right now, no matter who the President was and no matter what party they were in. A President with a 43% approval rating cannot win an election. It's basically impossible. That doesn't mean Obama can't win in 2 1/2 years from now. A lot can change in 2 1/2 years. Maybe his numbers will go up. But if the election were tomorrow, he would have no chance. Anybody could beat him right now.
Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-23-2010, 09:25 PM
timmgirvan's Avatar
timmgirvan timmgirvan is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Powder Springs Ga
Posts: 5,780
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?
Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-23-2010, 09:27 PM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?
If the downward trend continues it will be Romney. He "fixed" the Winter Olympics.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-23-2010, 09:41 PM
Honu's Avatar
Honu Honu is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Cali
Posts: 1,450
Default

Yep inherited a mess thats for sure ...has no clue what to do that is for sure also. How can a guy who has never led anybody or done anything but sign up voters have a clue how to run a country? Its not his fault , its his handlers you know Gearoge Soros and Ayres who takes credit for one of Obama's books. His handlers had over expectations and really had he came into power in a less hard time he might have had a chance like Bill Clinton did. His "vision" is not on track with most of America and thats ok everyone makes mistakes, and his was thinking he had enough knowledge or understanding of the American people to lead them and achieve their goals.
The guy has given a man named Cass Sunstein a regulatory position , you know the guy who thinks animals should have lawyers and that its perfectly fine to manipulate the American people to come around to the governments way of thinking , its called a nudge.
Im thinking America is wising up to the fact that they have no real leader who is not respected by most world governments. You know most world leaders thought it was pretty crappy for Obama to dis his own country while in the country of others , just sayin.
__________________

Horses are like strawberries....they can go bad overnight. Charlie Whittingham
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.