Michelle Calls Barack a "Kenyan"

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The former Honolulu elections clerk says Obama definitely was not born in Hawaii. I guess that's a ridiculous story.

You would definitely know better than the Honolulu elections clerk.

I can't tell you for a 100% fact that he wasn't born in Hawaii. But there is certainly evidence that he wasn't.


From the Honolulu elections clerk: "There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government in Hawaii knows this."

"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

How do you explain this Danzig?

tell you what. you find me and everyone concrete proof of him being born outside the u.s., and i'll tell you that you're right. until then, i couldn't care less what some guy in ha says, that's completely opposite of what every one else involved has said.

[brianwspencer]

LOL I'm so glad that after the "truthers" got lumped in with the left in general, that the "birthers" have their place on the right....only the mainstream right seems to embrace them, whereas the mainstream left wants nothing to do with the "truthers."

Keep at it Rupert....this is definitely where you want to hit from a credibility standpoint...you've got lots on your side here.

No, really. PLEASE keep at it. Really. Please!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

LOL I'm so glad that after the "truthers" got lumped in with the left in general, that the "birthers" have their place on the right....only the mainstream right seems to embrace them, whereas the mainstream left wants nothing to do with the "truthers."

Keep at it Rupert....this is definitely where you want to hit from a credibility standpoint...you've got lots on your side here.

No, really. PLEASE keep at it. Really. Please!

You would have to be a fool to not at least have some doubt about where he was born. He refuses to show his birth certificate. Not only that, he is spending millions of dollars on lawyers to keep his birth certificate hidden. In addition, there are all kinds of records that could shed light on where he was born that he refuses to release.

There is no evidence that he was born in Hawaii. There is none. If you choose to believe that he was born there just because that is the mainstream opinion, that is fine with me. I'm sure you would have been one of the guys that argued the Earth was flat even after evidence started to come out that it was round.

At least I can give you guys reasons why I think he wasn't born in Hawaii. I have yet to hear any reasons as to why you guys think he was born in Hawaii. All you can say is that "birthers are crazy" and that type of thing but you don't have any evidence to support your point of view.

[Danzig]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

So?...

lol

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So?...

lol

thing is, i've posted that link before to snopes...yet this keeps coming up. it's ridiculous. i'm no barack fan, but this is ridiculous. his critics need to stick to legitimate grievances.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

riot

'Edit: actually, sounds delusionally crazy'

pot=kettle

mrs prez having a great time saving the fat kids and getting front row at game 7 of the nba finals..what oil?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

Lol, that's always my favorite part of it all -- that in this wild conspiracy theory we'd have to be "fools" to not at least think about, we are being asked to believe that this giant master plan to infiltrate the Presidency of the United States with a non-American started in 1961!

They knew this would be happening nearly 50 years later, so they had that bit run in the newspaper, likely to just cover all their bases in case 50 years down the road, their child who was not born in the United States was capable enough to get himself elected President.

Yes. Yes. The true fools are the ones who think that's ridiculous.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

Everyone knows about The Ceritification of Live Birth. That does not prove he was born in Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth was available to children not born in Hawaii.

I do consider the newspaper announcements to be fairly compelling evidence that he was in fact born in Hawaii. I think that is pretty strong evidence.

In terms of a few people saying that they have seen the born cetificate, I am somewhat skeptical. I'm not saying that it's not true. I'm just saying that I'm skeptical. It is conceivably that they could be lying.

If they really had the birth certificate, I would certainly think they would just release it rather than spending millions of dollars on lawyers to fight its release. That is hardly a crazy opinion.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If they really had the birth certificate, I would certainly think they would just release it rather than spending millions of dollars on lawyers to fight its release. That is hardly a crazy opinion.

I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.

I think you are absolutely correct. It serves as a smokescreen and diversion for his agenda and allows....like literally this crazy statement to be put out showing more concern for illegal's wages than upholding American laws.

http://www.thefoxnation.com/illegal-...ght-fair-wages

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.

I find that to be an extremely far-fetched argument. Is it possible? Yes, it is certainly possible but it is extremely far-fetched in my view. This is not one of those cases where all publicity is good publicity. Bad publicity is bad publicity, period. And you are way off the mark if you think that it's only far-right wackos that have questions about where he was born.

Polls they have done show that a majority of Americans say he should release his birth certificate. If he doesn't release it, it just makes it look like he is hiding something. Nobody likes that. Everybody likes transparency.

I know that you guys know most of the facts of this case but most of the people out there that think this whole thing is a non-issue don't even know the facts. Most of those people think that his birth-ceritificate has already been released because that was what the mainstream media reported.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

Are you aware that snopes.com can't seem to make up their mind about what hospital Obama was born at.

"News sites swap Obama's birthplace like magic
UPI, Snopes change location within hours of WND report"

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

There is nothing fishy about that.

I forgot to mention that Obama's aunt said that he was born in Kenya. I'm sure all these things are just a coincidence. I'm sure he was born in Hawaii.

[brianwspencer]

I should probably start another thread so this doesn't get lost, but from watching more interviews, I've come to have legitimate questions about whether Sarah Palin is a human.

I have several good reasons to question whether she's a human, and in fact believe that she is a Terrortron 4000 series robot, and that beneath her synthetic, but very real looking skin, there is little more than a series of malleable metal rods that have been formed in the shape of a human being.

I believe that the onus is on Sarah Palin to prove to me that she is, in fact, a human being and not a robot, and I look forward to your help in getting to the bottom of this, Rupert, as if you've taught me one thing today, it's that all questions, no matter how absurd, should be treated as though they are entirely legitimate. I think that as a potential presidential candidate in two years that I have a right to know whether a robot that cries tears of oil and WD-40 could possibly be elected President of this great country of ours, and it is her job, and hers alone, to prove this claim wrong.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I should probably start another thread so this doesn't get lost, but from watching more interviews, I've come to have legitimate questions about whether Sarah Palin is a human.

I have several good reasons to question whether she's a human, and in fact believe that she is a Terrortron 4000 series robot, and that beneath her synthetic, but very real looking skin, there is little more than a series of malleable metal rods that have been formed in the shape of a human being.

I believe that the onus is on Sarah Palin to prove to me that she is, in fact, a human being and not a robot, and I look forward to your help in getting to the bottom of this, Rupert, as if you've taught me one thing today, it's that all questions, no matter how absurd, should be treated as though they are entirely legitimate. I think that as a potential presidential candidate in two years that I have a right to know whether a robot that cries tears of oil and WD-40 could possibly be elected President of this great country of ours, and it is her job, and hers alone, to prove this claim wrong.

Good point!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I should probably start another thread so this doesn't get lost, but from watching more interviews, I've come to have legitimate questions about whether Sarah Palin is a human.

I have several good reasons to question whether she's a human, and in fact believe that she is a Terrortron 4000 series robot, and that beneath her synthetic, but very real looking skin, there is little more than a series of malleable metal rods that have been formed in the shape of a human being.

I believe that the onus is on Sarah Palin to prove to me that she is, in fact, a human being and not a robot, and I look forward to your help in getting to the bottom of this, Rupert, as if you've taught me one thing today, it's that all questions, no matter how absurd, should be treated as though they are entirely legitimate. I think that as a potential presidential candidate in two years that I have a right to know whether a robot that cries tears of oil and WD-40 could possibly be elected President of this great country of ours, and it is her job, and hers alone, to prove this claim wrong.

somebody should definately check her birth certifi...errr.. Warranty!!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You would have to be a fool to not at least have some doubt about where he was born. He refuses to show his birth certificate. Not only that, he is spending millions of dollars on lawyers to keep his birth certificate hidden. In addition, there are all kinds of records that could shed light on where he was born that he refuses to release.

There is no evidence that he was born in Hawaii. There is none. If you choose to believe that he was born there just because that is the mainstream opinion, that is fine with me. I'm sure you would have been one of the guys that argued the Earth was flat even after evidence started to come out that it was round.

At least I can give you guys reasons why I think he wasn't born in Hawaii. I have yet to hear any reasons as to why you guys think he was born in Hawaii. All you can say is that "birthers are crazy" and that type of thing but you don't have any evidence to support your point of view.

actually the opposite.. you have to be a COMPLETE fool to buy into this stuff.

But from someone who compared Gay rights to the PGA tour, it doesnt surprise me.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

actually the opposite.. you have to be a COMPLETE fool to buy into this stuff.

But from someone who compared Gay rights to the PGA tour, it doesnt surprise me.

The thing about the PGA Tour was an analogy. Have you ever heard of an analogy? An analogy is not about two identical things. It's about two totally different things that have similarities. That is why it's called an analogy.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The thing about the PGA Tour was an analogy. Have you ever heard of an analogy? An analogy is not about two identical things. It's about two totally different things that have similarities. That is why it's called an analogy.

yeah but it was a ridiculous analogy

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yeah but it was a ridiculous analogy

I don't take that as an insult because I'm sure you would think that any analogy that doesn't make a good case for gay marriage is a bad analogy.

Let's hear you come up with an analogy that would argue against gay marriage. That shouldn't be hard for you to do. I can always argue either side of an issue. You should be able to do it.

If you can't come up with one, then you will prove my case. My case being that you would think any analogy is bad that doesn't make a gay marriage ban look like a huge injustice.