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[CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont understand for the life of me why they need to meet at 1 1/4? I guess its the "classic distance" by old school definition.. but it is DEFINATELY not the classic distance in this past decade. they should meet at 1 1/8. its both horses' best distance.

CSC drives me nuts with his "classic distance" crap like it means ANYTHING.

I almost missed this with today's excitement, it does matter. In American racing almost all the greats have won at 1 1/4, that is not unless you want to be associated as the greatest miler, sprinter..ect..

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

I almost missed this with today's excitement, it does matter. In American racing almost all the greats have won at 1 1/4, that is not unless you want to be associated as the greatest miler, sprinter..ect..

and you could substitute that with 1 1/2 a few decades ago.

Doesnt change the fact that racing has changed over time.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

and you could substitute that with 1 1/2 a few decades ago.

Doesnt change the fact that racing has changed over time.

Know what else that doesn't change? That this argument is purely one borne of opportunism.

Obviously, they couldn't make this argument until Rachel's brilliant campaign forced the connections' hand to try to sneak in the backdoor to HOY, deciding at the last minute to negotiate 10 furlongs in the Classic.

Were it not for Rachel having done what she had done up to that point, it seems awfully unlikely that Zenyatta would've ever tried 10 furlongs, and then we wouldn't be having to listen to this disingenuous nonsense like it was some part of their master plan to prove her greatness, you know, getting that win a the all-important 10 furlong distance. They didn't run her at 10 furlongs because they felt the need to get her a win at a "classic" distance, they ran her at 10 furlongs because some 3yo filly had just run ridiculous circles around their scared, pathetic campaign up to that point and it was the only chance they had to win.

FFS, they'll try anything, just to see if it sticks.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Know what else that doesn't change? That this argument is purely one borne of opportunism.

Obviously, they couldn't make this argument until Rachel's brilliant campaign forced the connections' hand to try to sneak in the backdoor to HOY, deciding at the last minute to negotiate 10 furlongs in the Classic.

Were it not for Rachel having done what she had done up to that point, it seems awfully unlikely that Zenyatta would've ever tried 10 furlongs, and then we wouldn't be having to listen to this disingenuous nonsense like it was some part of their master plan to prove her greatness, you know, getting that win a the all-important 10 furlong distance. They didn't run her at 10 furlongs because they felt the need to get her a win at a "classic" distance, they ran her at 10 furlongs because some 3yo filly had just run ridiculous circles around their scared, pathetic campaign up to that point and it was the only chance they had to win.

FFS, they'll try anything, just to see if it sticks.

To top all that off, if Sea of Stars runs in the BCC, Zen doesn't.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by CSC

I almost missed this with today's excitement, it does matter. In American racing almost all the greats have won at 1 1/4, that is not unless you want to be associated as the greatest miler, sprinter..ect..

in american racing dirt and turf have always been the benchmark for greatness. zenyatta is the greatest synth runner we have seen. im okay with that being her legacy. just not an all time great. are you okay with that also?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

in american racing dirt and turf have always been the benchmark for greatness. zenyatta is the greatest synth runner we have seen. im okay with that being her legacy. just not an all time great. are you okay with that also?

this is a PERFECT responce to the CSC's Classic distance post!