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Old 06-03-2010, 03:00 PM
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Seriously there is zero % chance that he wont be successful in the MLB because of his stuff. You dont have to be a grizzled scout to see that. The key is can he stretch it out to 200+ innings per year? He has been throwing 100 innings a year and low leverage innings at that since he allows so few baserunners. Obviously in the majors the talent level is much higher than the majority of what he has faced. But the dominance that he has displayed in Spring training and the upper levels of the minors is rare. There simply aren't any cases of a pitcher this dominant not making it in the majors without injury issues. ALL pitchers are injury risks as none of them escape not getting hurt at least occasionally. There are some that are critical of his mechanics yet those guys were also pessimistic on Lincecum and K Rod as well. We have seen how that has worked out.
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Seriously there is zero % chance that he wont be successful in the MLB because of his stuff. You dont have to be a grizzled scout to see that. The key is can he stretch it out to 200+ innings per year? He has been throwing 100 innings a year and low leverage innings at that since he allows so few baserunners. Obviously in the majors the talent level is much higher than the majority of what he has faced. But the dominance that he has displayed in Spring training and the upper levels of the minors is rare. There simply aren't any cases of a pitcher this dominant not making it in the majors without injury issues. ALL pitchers are injury risks as none of them escape not getting hurt at least occasionally. There are some that are critical of his mechanics yet those guys were also pessimistic on Lincecum and K Rod as well. We have seen how that has worked out.
I expect SS to immediatly be a top 10 pitcher in the league (stuff wise). Once he's able to throw 9 innings he'll be a top 3 pitcher immediately.
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Old 06-03-2010, 03:13 PM
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I expect SS to immediatly be a top 10 pitcher in the league (stuff wise). Once he's able to throw 9 innings he'll be a top 3 pitcher immediately.
LOL There isnt any such thing as a 9 inning pitcher anymore, Halladay the freak notwithstanding...

Because his innings will be limited for at least this and next year it is hard to put him in the top 10. There are a lot of really good pitchers right now.

In no particular order off the top of my head
Halladay
Jimenez
Linecum
Sabathia
Santana
Wainwright
Carpenter
Kershaw
Lee
Hernandez
Lester

thats a tough 11 to crack
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LOL There isnt any such thing as a 9 inning pitcher anymore, Halladay the freak notwithstanding...

Because his innings will be limited for at least this and next year it is hard to put him in the top 10. There are a lot of really good pitchers right now.

In no particular order off the top of my head
Halladay
Jimenez
Linecum
Sabathia
Santana
Wainwright
Carpenter
Kershaw
Lee
Hernandez
Lester

thats a tough 11 to crack
Lots of good NL pitchers on that list!!!

thats why I said "stuff wise". Obviously if he's given a 80 pitch count or 6 inning limit, he cant come close to those 11, but as far as his stuff, I think he'll immediately belong on that list. Once his endurance is up he'll be near the top.

How crazy, after this draft, Nationals will have Nolan Ryan re-incarnated and Mickey Mantle re-incarnated (that 17 year old kid). Nationals sure picked great years to finish with the worst record in baseball!
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Old 06-03-2010, 03:38 PM
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Lots of good NL pitchers on that list!!!

thats why I said "stuff wise". Obviously if he's given a 80 pitch count or 6 inning limit, he cant come close to those 11, but as far as his stuff, I think he'll immediately belong on that list. Once his endurance is up he'll be near the top.

How crazy, after this draft, Nationals will have Nolan Ryan re-incarnated and Mickey Mantle re-incarnated (that 17 year old kid). Nationals sure picked great years to finish with the worst record in baseball!
Harper plays C now and may be moved to a corner OF position. Washington has some pieces. Drew Storen the #10 pick last year has already been called up and is a set up man and will be the future closer. They have a 5 star catching prospect named Derek Norris that should be ready mid year 2011. They also have Danny Espinosa who is a 4 star SS who may be ready to start next year. Jordan Zimmerman might be back late this year and Ryan Zimmerman is already one of the best 3b in baseball. They arent that far from being good.
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