5/15 (PIM): 135th Preakness S. (G1)

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's a difference of three minutes...how does the race time affect the horses anyway?

Ask Barbaro.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Ask Barbaro.

Relevance factor, ZERO.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Ask Barbaro.

you're kidding, right?

[CSC]

If Pletcher's horses show life today and on tommorow's undercard, I am going to fire a bomb and bet get this Aikenite to win tommorow. At 20-1, I am willing to fire some money his way on the opinion that this derby was not as strong as the 104 beyer it was awarded.

[philcski]

Current odds based on BES-Preakness Doubles:
1 Aikenite 30-1
2 Schoolyard Dreams 21-1
3 Pleasant Prince 28-1
4 Northern Giant 80-1
5 Yawanna Twist 38-1
6 Jackson Bend 18-1
7 Lookin at Lucky 3-1
8 Super Saver 7-2
9 Caracortado 22-1
10 Paddy O' Prado 14-1
11 First Dude 35-1
12 Dublin 15-1

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by philcski

Current odds based on BES-Preakness Doubles:
1 Aikenite 30-1
2 Schoolyard Dreams 21-1
3 Pleasant Prince 28-1
4 Northern Giant 80-1
5 Yawanna Twist 38-1
6 Jackson Bend 18-1
7 Lookin at Lucky 3-1
8 Super Saver 7-2
9 Caracortado 22-1
10 Paddy O' Prado 14-1
11 First Dude 35-1
12 Dublin 15-1

huh.. if Paddy is really 14-1 tomorrow maybe I will bet... Looking at Sucky is terrible at 3-1

[otisotisotis]

Not much wagering interest for me here. Maybe just take Dublin thinking GoGo would like to stick it to 'that white haired guy'. (that's how my wife knows him, lol )

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by otisotisotis

Not much wagering interest for me here. Maybe just take Dublin thinking GoGo would like to stick it to 'that white haired guy'. (that's how my wife knows him, lol )

I think people are making too much out of the Gomez-off revenge thing. He's ridden for Baffert hundreds of times, and I assume he'll ride for him plenty in the future, too. It's just that they're going in another direction with LAL.

Not a very good direction, but another direction.

And last time I checked, Dublin didn't care about the white haired guy. He's still a hanger who won't win.

Originally Posted by philcski

Current odds based on BES-Preakness Doubles:
1 Aikenite 30-1
2 Schoolyard Dreams 21-1
3 Pleasant Prince 28-1
4 Northern Giant 80-1
5 Yawanna Twist 38-1
6 Jackson Bend 18-1
7 Lookin at Lucky 3-1
8 Super Saver 7-2
9 Caracortado 22-1
10 Paddy O' Prado 14-1
11 First Dude 35-1
12 Dublin 15-1

Nice.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by CSC

If Pletcher's horses show life today and on tommorow's undercard, I am going to fire a bomb and bet get this Aikenite to win tommorow. At 20-1, I am willing to fire some money his way on the opinion that this derby was not as strong as the 104 beyer it was awarded.

I've already lost money on Aikenite this year.

I'm a sucker for those Dogwood Stables runners.

I think Aikenite is a plodder tomorrow though.

[CSC]

Jackson Bend holds the key to the race, with Smith aboard he should set the pace. If not Super Saver has the big ad here.

[Thunder Gulch]

I like Jackson for a piece, but I just don't think he will hold on in that last furlong. He will control the pace inside though, and it doesn't look as if there is going to be a lot of pressure. Aikenite is another that I'm interested in.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I like Jackson for a piece, but I just don't think he will hold on in that last furlong. He will control the pace inside though, and it doesn't look as if there is going to be a lot of pressure. Aikenite is another that I'm interested in.

Love jackson Bend to get in the money. SS/JB exacta

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Ask Barbaro.

Now,Now,Don't upset Alex Brown.

[Indian Charlie]

What did we learn from the Preakness today?

Nothing.

It was already obvious that trips matter (look at the winner). I guess those who kept saying Lookin at 'Sucky' was a terrible horse and also said that his bad trips were perfect trips have nothing to say.

The other already obvious thing was that Super Saver is a one track wonder.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What did we learn from the Preakness today?

Nothing.

It was already obvious that trips matter (look at the winner). I guess those who kept saying Lookin at 'Sucky' was a terrible horse and also said that his bad trips were perfect trips have nothing to say.

The other already obvious thing was that Super Saver is a one track wonder.

Hmmm, maybe you should replace "we learn" with "I learn"? Agree with you on Lucky. The people saying he made his own trouble, as if it would therefore continue, have been proven wrong. On the other hand, he did not exactly demolish this field. On the other other hand, he is very tough in the stretch.

Super Saver may or may not be a "one track wonder". Maybe he is a wet track wonder. Or maybe two weeks wasn't enough for him, my usual stance on turnaround time notwithstanding.

Most likely conclusion: this is a mediocre class of 3-yr-olds, and any one of several might turn up his game in any given race enough to win it.

--Dunbar

[lemoncrush]

My missteps was not doing any tickets without SS. I used Jackson Bend and First Dude liberally, but I just had such a hard time believing SS could finish outside of the money, based on past Preakness's for the most part, and the lack of a real strong group of new faces.

During the past week, First Dude and Fly Down have flattered the 3-yo's that wintered at Gulfstream Park this year. Although, i still don't know how Pleasant Prince nearly won the FL Derby.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

My missteps was not doing any tickets without SS. I used Jackson Bend and First Dude liberally, but I just had such a hard time believing SS could finish outside of the money, based on past Preakness's for the most part, and the lack of a real strong group of new faces.

During the past week, First Dude and Fly Down have flattered the 3-yo's that wintered at Gulfstream Park this year. Although, i still don't know how Pleasant Prince nearly won the FL Derby.

and a horse named grasshopper almost won the travers. he got bet i don't know how many times based on that one performance. inexplicable runs happen some times.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Hmmm, maybe you should replace "we learn" with "I learn"? Agree with you on Lucky. The people saying he made his own trouble, as if it would therefore continue, have been proven wrong. On the other hand, he did not exactly demolish this field. On the other other hand, he is very tough in the stretch.

Super Saver may or may not be a "one track wonder". Maybe he is a wet track wonder. Or maybe two weeks wasn't enough for him, my usual stance on turnaround time notwithstanding.

Most likely conclusion: this is a mediocre class of 3-yr-olds, and any one of several might turn up his game in any given race enough to win it.
--Dunbar

i agree.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Hmmm, maybe you should replace "we learn" with "I learn"? Agree with you on Lucky. The people saying he made his own trouble, as if it would therefore continue, have been proven wrong. On the other hand, he did not exactly demolish this field. On the other other hand, he is very tough in the stretch.

Super Saver may or may not be a "one track wonder". Maybe he is a wet track wonder. Or maybe two weeks wasn't enough for him, my usual stance on turnaround time notwithstanding.

Most likely conclusion: this is a mediocre class of 3-yr-olds, and any one of several might turn up his game in any given race enough to win it.

--Dunbar

What impressed me the most about Lucky was how long he sustained his run and it was AGAINST the biased rail.

Jackson Bend is some kind of racehorse.