Noble's Promise: Did Willie Cost him at least a placing?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Judging by the fourth quarter mile It looks like the leaders were backing up and NP simply inherited the lead. I can't see anything to indicate he was the one to "collapse the race".

This is exactly my point, and why I said I don't understand how one can determine who's accelerating and when if one ignores fractions.

[Danzig]

Noble's Promise, who had the lead in the Derby at the quarter pole but was overtaken by Super Saver and Calvin Borel and finished fifth, has been moved from “doubtful” to “possible” by trainer Kenny McPeek after meeting with the managing partners of Chasing Dreams Racing 2008 this afternoon at McPeek’s Magdalena Farm in Lexington.

“He ran a great race,” added McPeek. “ He is a special colt. Does he have distance limitations? We have to admit he might have them. Do we tinker and see if we can get him to go that far? We’re willing to try.”

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is exactly my point, and why I said I don't understand how one can determine who's accelerating and when if one ignores fractions.

Which is why I quoted your statement to begin with. I think that statement is most pertinent to the issue of whether he was the one that collapsed the race. If NP did not separate himself from SS during the period of time that the leaders were faltering then I don't understand how he was responsible for that collapse.

As far as the fractions are concerned they only substantiate what appears to be the leaders collapsing into the rest of the field.