Garrett At The Shore

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by philcski

Kulina is hoping for a 20-25% daily increase. I'm not sure how much of that is managing expectations or whatever, but I think they do better than that number easily.

As a fan of Monmouth Park I also am concerned about it going forward. I love that they're taking a stand, a shot to try something new and possibly revolutionary, instead of just dying a slow death. The purse subsidy ends this year and I could see the AC casinos crying that they're doing poorly because PA has casinos now, etc and not wanting to re-up. What happens from there? Does Monmouth get their own slot parlor? Would it even be worth pursuing? From a more rosy perspective, what if this crazy idea actually works and they turn a 50% increase in handle? Does the industry take a clue?

He will easily get a 25% increase.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

He will easily get a 25% increase.

At the risk of you getting upset....

I don't think you really understand this. Nobody is " easily " getting an increase like that. One thing you have to take into account is weather. There will invariably be some bad weather days, and those will seriously affect their cards, and thus handle. Those days will show a minimal increase, at best over the prior year. Now, it is also possible they will have better weather overall than last year, which will help them, but there will be days that rate to have little discernable increase.

Getting even a 15% increase over time is extremely difficult in the short run and would be something to be proud of.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

At the risk of you getting upset....

I don't think you really understand this. Nobody is " easily " getting an increase like that. One thing you have to take into account is weather. There will invariably be some bad weather days, and those will seriously affect their cards, and thus handle. Those days will show a minimal increase, at best over the prior year. Now, it is also possible they will have better weather overall than last year, which will help them, but there will be days that rate to have little discernable increase.

Getting even a 15% increase over time is extremely difficult in the short run and would be something to be proud of.

25% is doable. You are going from a far lower base than NY. Its not like NJ was knocking the cover off the ball.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

25% is doable. You are going from a far lower base than NY. Its not like NJ was knocking the cover off the ball.

From easily over to " doable? "

I didn't say it wasn't but dismissively suggesting they will doesn't exactly suggest a great overview of the situation.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

From easily over to " doable? "

I didn't say it wasn't but dismissively suggesting they will doesn't exactly suggest a great overview of the situation.

Splitting hairs. Easily doable....And again, whatever you say about the plan or prospects can be taken with a grain of salt since you have a vested interest in another....NY still has lower takeout going for it as well as better testing as of now(which bettors are oblivious to)....Monmouth testing leaves a lot to be desired except for Harness strangely enough.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Splitting hairs. Easily doable....And again, whatever you say about the plan or prospects can be taken with a grain of salt since you have a vested interest in another....NY still has lower takeout going for it as well as better testing as of now(which bettors are oblivious to)....Monmouth testing leaves a lot to be desired except for Harness strangely enough.

And you wonder why I find your comments absurd.

What have I posted here that could even be construed as biased? Please, read carefully.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And you wonder why I find your comments absurd.

What have I posted here that could even be construed as biased? Please, read carefully.

We will know soon enough what kind of handle increase they are looking at. Mind you overall handle is down 10% year over year most places so it would be something if they can turn that tide.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Splitting hairs. Easily doable....And again, whatever you say about the plan or prospects can be taken with a grain of salt since you have a vested interest in another....NY still has lower takeout going for it as well as better testing as of now(which bettors are oblivious to)....Monmouth testing leaves a lot to be desired except for Harness strangely enough.

Monmouth runs a harness meet?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Monmouth runs a harness meet?

The Big M does....which is what was replaced.