4/3 (AQU): Carter, Wood (G1's); Bay Shore, Excelsior (G3's)

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by jms62

I think NYRA truly misses Ernie P he could be always be counted on to add numbers.

Pathetic, but very very true.

[pmacdaddy]

Correct pronunciation of Eskendereya - http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories...FunFacts.shtml

[jms62]

Don't expect too much out of the All-Stakes P4 when All-All-All-All cost 1512

[pucknut]

i am trying to understand the logic
shouldnt we support the sport
too many track close because people dont attend
i plan on going saturday
three great horses are running
awesome act could be a special horse as could esky
gambling horses a few drinks nice weather what not to like

[tector]

Originally Posted by pucknut

i am trying to understand the logic
shouldnt we support the sport
too many track close because people dont attend
i plan on going saturday
three great horses are running
awesome act could be a special horse as could esky
gambling horses a few drinks nice weather what not to like

No, you shouldn't support crap cards.

No, there are not too many tracks closing--more need to close. The typically American (and idiotic) idea that more=better is so laughably and obviously wrong when applied to horse racing, it is hard to imagine anyone believes it.

Trust me, I have more interest in the Wood than you: I've got a future book ticket from November on Esky (and Jackson Bend, for that matter--my other one was Buddy's Saint). So, I'll watch the race on TV, and not subsidized a gruesome card like this. If Aqueduct fails someday, then it does. Why should it be immune to the free market? The "great" horses will race regardless.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by jms62

Don't expect too much out of the All-Stakes P4 when All-All-All-All cost 1512

IMO this is the type of pick 4 you try to hit for $10-20 bucks and hope it pays over $100....I would feel confident with a 1-3-1-2 as a main... Then a bunch of back up's.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

IMO this is the type of pick 4 you try to hit for $10-20 bucks and hope it pays over $100....I would feel confident with a 1-3-1-2 as a main... Then a bunch of back up's.

I guessing you are going to get alot of bets like that. So if a couple outsiders win then the payout maybe somewhat decent.

[parsixfarms]

I don't get all the carping about tomorrow's card. Yes, the Excelsior and Bay Shore did not come up that strong this year, but not all the races are going to measure up every year, especially with trainers wanting big gaps between their charges' races and too many stakes out there for the same horses (in the 3YO sprint division, there was the Swale two weeks ago, the Miracle Wood at Laurel, and with Derby Fever in full bloom, horses like A Little Warm are trying two turns this time of year). The handicap division is a mess, and most of the "top" horses have not made their way back to NY yet. Look at the field Oaklawn drew tomorrow for the Oaklawn Park Handicap with a $500K purse.

As for the Wood, it has a short field, but it has two of the three top horses on the current DRF Derby Watch, plus the runner-ups from the Fountain of Youth and Tampa bay Derby. With a premium on connections trying to secure graded earnings, how many owners are going to run here? Dutrow sent his NY-bred, Yawanna Twist, to the Illinois Derby to avoid this field, and this is NYRA's fault? Would you prefer the Lane's End race won by a horse like Dean's Kitten over this?

And the Carter came up a very strong race, with Munnings, Musket Man and Warrior's Reward. Aside from Wall Street Wonder, are we really missing any active sprinters of significance (especially with the one-mile Gulfstream Park Handicap two weeks ago and the 7F Commonwealth at Keeneland next week for the synthetic set)?

The rest of the card has reasonably full fields, and is reflective of the horse population in NY this time of year. It wasn't that long ago that the Aqueduct spring meet was an excellent meet, but times have changed, now that Keeneland has become a major meet for the big outifits and Gulfstream Park has extended its meet through the third week of April (it used to close the third week of March). Would VLT-inflated purses change that, I guess so, but that's the politicians' fault.

[pucknut]

still think ny racing day in day out is the best in the country
the big a is 1.5 hrs away
i for one will be there
again whats not to like betting ,babes and beer
fear ND LOATHING AT THE WOOD

[jms62]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I don't get all the carping about tomorrow's card. Yes, the Excelsior and Bay Shore did not come up that strong this year, but not all the races are going to measure up every year, especially with trainers wanting big gaps between their charges' races and too many stakes out there for the same horses (in the 3YO sprint division, there was the Swale two weeks ago, the Miracle Wood at Laurel, and with Derby Fever in full bloom, horses like A Little Warm are trying two turns this time of year). The handicap division is a mess, and most of the "top" horses have not made their way back to NY yet. Look at the field Oaklawn drew tomorrow for the Oaklawn Park Handicap with a $500K purse.

As for the Wood, it has a short field, but it has two of the three top horses on the current DRF Derby Watch, plus the runner-ups from the Fountain of Youth and Tampa bay Derby. With a premium on connections trying to secure graded earnings, how many owners are going to run here? Dutrow sent his NY-bred, Yawanna Twist, to the Illinois Derby to avoid this field, and this is NYRA's fault? Would you prefer the Lane's End race won by a horse like Dean's Kitten over this?

And the Carter came up a very strong race, with Munnings, Musket Man and Warrior's Reward. Aside from Wall Street Wonder, are we really missing any active sprinters of significance (especially with the one-mile Gulfstream Park Handicap two weeks ago and the 7F Commonwealth at Keeneland next week for the synthetic set)?

The rest of the card has reasonably full fields, and is reflective of the horse population in NY this time of year. It wasn't that long ago that the Aqueduct spring meet was an excellent meet, but times have changed, now that Keeneland has become a major meet for the big outifits and Gulfstream Park has extended its meet through the third week of April (it used to close the third week of March). Would VLT-inflated purses change that, I guess so, but that's the politicians' fault.

You act like tomorrows card is the exception rather than the rule at NY tracks sans Saratoga. NYRA simply curls up in the fetal postion, blames the lack of slots and does nothing about it. When the customers complain we usually get shouted down by the NYRA shills and get put on the spot to offer ideas to fix the problem immediately. The customers aren't paid 6 figure salaries to fix the problems of NYRA. NYRA Execs are. Meanwhile Monmouth faces the same issues and they at least try a novel approach to fix the problem and will be stealing Belmonts lunch money while NYRA remains curled up in the fetal position crying about the lack of slots. Sorry to piss on your parade but tomorrows card is a joke.

I wouldn't bet it.