Is Being Gay A Choice?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I'm going to refrain from this "loaded" thread.....it could go on and on....
I'm straight, period.

exactly. Its not a choice for you and its not a choice for people who fall in love with their same gender.

Why would someone choose to live a more difficult life where half the people out there think you are a weirdo and associates you with a pedifile's and a beasteality people (or however those words are spelled)?? Why would someone choose a lifestyle where you are afraid your own family will reject you?

People are gay because they feel comfortable in same sex relationships, and that is natural to them. It is not natural to be in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex.

Basically the same, natural, reasons for you being "straight" just the other way around.

[SOREHOOF]

More love in this world can't be a bad thing.

[Antitrust32]

It is interesting that the majority of Republicans that I talk to (not all of course) are FOR gay rights. Only a small minority of the more religious Republican base that I talk to are against it.. for religious reasons only.

I'm not sure why more Republican so - called "leaders" cant be more in touch with the Conservatives who are socially more "left" and why do they cater so much to the religious right? I'm sure there are a lot more Fiscally Conservative but Socially liberal people out there than there are fanatical religious Conservatives. The religious ones have a louder voice though.

Why is equality a "left" thing? Why cant it be an "everyone" thing? You would thing that the Conservatives, based on their beliefs of individual freedoms, would take the side of equality. Most intelligent & compassionate individuals out there, who live there life based on reality, are for equality.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

It is interesting that the majority of Republicans that I talk to (not all of course) are FOR gay rights. Only a small minority of the more religious Republican base that I talk to are against it.. for religious reasons only.

I'm not sure why more Republican so - called "leaders" cant be more in touch with the Conservatives who are socially more "left" and why do they cater so much to the religious right? I'm sure there are a lot more Fiscally Conservative but Socially liberal people out there than there are fanatical religious Conservatives. The religious ones have a louder voice though.

Why is equality a "left" thing? Why cant it be an "everyone" thing? You would thing that the Conservatives, based on their beliefs of individual freedoms, would take the side of equality. Most intelligent & compassionate individuals out there, who live there life based on reality, are for equality.

i'd guess that most of the republicans you talk to are comfortable having a gay friend. it's amazing how knowing someone makes it more difficult to have a set of rigid doctrinaire opinions about them.

the problem is that in many parts of this country you may have gay friends but they aren't about to tell you.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'd guess that most of the republicans you talk to are comfortable having a gay friend. it's amazing how knowing someone makes it more difficult to have a set of rigid doctrinaire opinions about them.

the problem is that in many parts of this country you may have gay friends but they aren't about to tell you.

very true. I dont tell people who I think may not be comfortable with it.. I havent said a word to anyone in my family - even extended family except my Mom (who guessed it and asked me) my brother (who thought it was better than me dating dudes) and my cousin who is gay. Of course my Dad knows now and two of my Uncles found out... but 80% of my extended family I havent said a word too and dont plan on it (about my sexuality of course).

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

very true. I dont tell people who I think may not be comfortable with it.. I havent said a word to anyone in my family - even extended family except my Mom (who guessed it and asked me) my brother (who thought it was better than me dating dudes) and my cousin who is gay. Of course my Dad knows now and two of my Uncles found out... but 80% of my extended family I havent said a word too and dont plan on it (about my sexuality of course).

If I'm straight but sleep with a lesbian, what does that make me? (Other than THE MAN!!)

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by GPK

If I'm straight but sleep with a lesbian, what does that make me? (Other than THE MAN!!)

The type who compensates for his 5' 2'' height by cruising lesbian bars for girls to bang in order to increase your street cred?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by GPK

If I'm straight but sleep with a lesbian, what does that make me? (Other than THE MAN!!)

Someone who wants to cause all women to have low self-esteem issues, not just heterosexual women?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

It is interesting that the majority of Republicans that I talk to (not all of course) are FOR gay rights. Only a small minority of the more religious Republican base that I talk to are against it.. for religious reasons only.

I'm not sure why more Republican so - called "leaders" cant be more in touch with the Conservatives who are socially more "left" and why do they cater so much to the religious right? I'm sure there are a lot more Fiscally Conservative but Socially liberal people out there than there are fanatical religious Conservatives. The religious ones have a louder voice though.

Why is equality a "left" thing? Why cant it be an "everyone" thing? You would thing that the Conservatives, based on their beliefs of individual freedoms, would take the side of equality. Most intelligent & compassionate individuals out there, who live there life based on reality, are for equality.

It isn't just the Republican leadership or a small minority of Republicans that oppose gay marriage. As of a 2008 poll anyway, 75% of all registered Republicans opposed gay marriage:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/868/gay-marriage

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

It isn't just the Republican leadership or a small minority of Republicans that oppose gay marriage. As of a 2008 poll anyway, 75% of all registered Republicans opposed gay marriage:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/868/gay-marriage

I must talk to more Independent / Libertarian registered Conservatives.

But yeah... there is also a huge difference of opinion on this by age. Younger generations dont really see the big deal.

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