Crist on the Farcical World Cup

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

If anything, I think the 2010 Dubai World Cup has provided a great blueprint for those who would like to have some success in future years. If American horsemen chose to engage, great...if not, their loss...because someone will pick up the slack.

Unlike some of the others here, I IGNORED the event. A 'great blueprint', IMO, would, at least, include some results files. Let me get this straight, they have all this money over there YET they can't hire someone to do FULL (and ACCURATE) results charts? How the **** do they expect anyone with a brain to bet those horses: BEYERS figures?

I mean, no matter how you cut it, this is still a 3rd world operation. Maybe the Sheik can get his lazy ass over to the Hong Kong Jockey Club site and see what a PROFESSIONAL, CUTTING EDGE operation looks like.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Unlike some of the others here, I IGNORED the event. A 'great blueprint', IMO, would, at least, include some results files. Let me get this straight, they have all this money over there YET they can't hire someone to do FULL (and ACCURATE) results charts? How the **** do they expect anyone with a brain to bet those horses: BEYERS figures?

I mean, no matter how you cut it, this is still a 3rd world operation. Maybe the Sheik can get his lazy ass over to the Hong Kong Jockey Club site and see what a PROFESSIONAL, CUTTING EDGE operation looks like.

Results are posted on EmiratesRacing.com, with race comments on each horse and the stewards' report. They do have the most complete Trakus system I've seen, and have implemented it on course, but seem to have some difficulty with getting that data on their website - I attribute some of this to growing pains (i.e, getting the course up and running was first and foremost).

The in-race running lines don't exist, but neither do the European racing jurisdictions provide those either...of course, with no wagering in Dubai, the impetus to get that all up and running is limited.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Results are posted on EmiratesRacing.com, with race comments on each horse and the stewards' report. They do have the most complete Trakus system I've seen, and have implemented it on course, but seem to have some difficulty with getting that data on their website - I attribute some of this to growing pains (i.e, getting the course up and running was first and foremost).

The in-race running lines don't exist, but neither do the European racing jurisdictions provide those either...of course, with no wagering in Dubai, the impetus to get that all up and running is limited.

I was looking for results myself, Thanks for the website.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Results are posted on EmiratesRacing.com, with race comments on each horse and the stewards' report. They do have the most complete Trakus system I've seen, and have implemented it on course, but seem to have some difficulty with getting that data on their website - I attribute some of this to growing pains (i.e, getting the course up and running was first and foremost).

The in-race running lines don't exist, but neither do the European racing jurisdictions provide those either...of course, with no wagering in Dubai, the impetus to get that all up and running is limited.

There you go: they might have the 'most complete Trakus system' but until they get the data out there it really does no one any good. They have a chance to do things the right way, as, clearly, money is of no object. IMO, this entails making ACCURATE data available to the bettor. Can you imagine a system in place with accurate running lines? How about one with a line for every 1/16th of a mile (or less)? How beatable does the game then become?

Maybe next year. In the meantime, WO is opening later in the week and we can at least get our accuracy fix satisfied there.

[MisterB]

I see Nick Kling has spoken. Seems he feels Joe Hirsh would not have agreed with Christ blog.

http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2...b854309848.txt

[Linny]

Since there is no betting in Dubai, there has long been a bit of a struggle between the management of the Carnival / DWC and the people involved in running the overseas betting and distribution systems.

It is a non US venue. If you decided to bet on Royal Ascot or Hong Kong you would have to deal with their versions of PP's and data. If it doesn't suit you, fine, don't play. Millions of punters in Europe, Asia and Australia do just fine with the type of data provided by the Dubai Racing Club. The handle on the DWC card was quite strong int hose locales, so someone must think they have adequate data.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Linny

Since there is no betting in Dubai, there has long been a bit of a struggle between the management of the Carnival / DWC and the people involved in running the overseas betting and distribution systems.

It is a non US venue. If you decided to bet on Royal Ascot or Hong Kong you would have to deal with their versions of PP's and data. If it doesn't suit you, fine, don't play. Millions of punters in Europe, Asia and Australia do just fine with the type of data provided by the Dubai Racing Club. The handle on the DWC card was quite strong int hose locales, so someone must think they have adequate data.

The data SUCKS and just because they got some play is no indication that it doesn't. I don't play. I don't feel the need to throw my money away when there are plenty of other, better options. They (and you) can dress it up all they want, it's still a 3rd world product. Let those who need the action deal with it.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

The data SUCKS and just because they got some play is no indication that it doesn't. I don't play. I don't feel the need to throw my money away when there are plenty of other, better options. They (and you) can dress it up all they want, it's still a 3rd world product. Let those who need the action deal with it.

Wahwahwah