obama demands vote on health care..

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1WUMRgbPR0

Please except a big thank you. This is one of my favorite songs of all time. You have just made my day.

[letswastemoney]

I do not care if healthy Americans will have their premiums go up because of this.

I care about my own safety and my own safety only. And at the moment, health insurance is astronomically expensive for me, and difficult because of a tiny pre existing condition that does not even affect how I live.

If this bill makes my life easier, but makes the lives of healthy Americans who have to pay more money because of this bill harder.....then GOOD!!!

As I said, I only care about my own welfare.

Just as Republicans do not care about me, I will not care about them.

[clyde]

^^^^ Jimmy cracked corn......

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I do not care if healthy Americans will have their premiums go up because of this.

I care about my own safety and my own safety only. And at the moment, health insurance is astronomically expensive for me, and difficult because of a tiny pre existing condition that does not even affect how I live.

If this bill makes my life easier, but makes the lives of healthy Americans who have to pay more money because of this bill harder.....then GOOD!!!

As I said, I only care about my own welfare.

Just as Republicans do not care about me, I will not care about them.

Im sure you could care less about what the majority of American people feel about this bill.


Just curious what are your views on the following:

1. Do you feel a person who can work but isnt trying to find a job deserves free health insurance?

2. Do you feel an illegal should get this insurance. I dont think its going to affect them, they already undeservingly get everything free?

3. Why should a healthy American have to pay more so you can have health insurance?

I do feel for you having a hard time getting cheap insurance with you pre existing condition. If O'Dumbass is trying to regulate health insurance, why cant he regulate the price of gas? Im also sure that the Democrats could care less about you also.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sure you could care less about what the majority of American people feel about this bill.


Just curious what are your views on the following:

1. Do you feel a person who can work but isnt trying to find a job deserves free health insurance?

2. Do you feel an illegal should get this insurance. I dont think its going to affect them, they already undeservingly get everything free?

3. Why should a healthy American have to pay more so you can have health insurance?

I do feel for you having a hard time getting cheap insurance with you pre existing condition. If O'Dumbass is trying to regulate health insurance, why cant he regulate the price of gas? Im also sure that the Democrats could care less about you also.

1. In certain instances, yes. I think human life is important, and even though that person isn't trying hard now, you think he's going to encouraged to be encouraged to try in the future when he's thrown a $40,000 bill for a life saving surgery?

There should be free basic protection.

2. No I don't believe illegals should get free protection. The problem with illegals....is I don't believe they should even be in this country in the first place. They're illegal!!! and they eat up resources that should be reserved US citizens, like taking up doctor's time and filling up classrooms with students that shouldn't even be here in the first place.

If an illegal comes into the hospital, and can be identified as an illegal, maybe after initial treatment, I think he/she should get kicked out of the country.

That stance is probably more conservative than what most Democrats believe.

3. There may come a day when for whatever reason, a completely healthy person loses their health insurance and comes up with cancer.

I just think there should be basic protection that prevents someone from losing their life savings if they have a major disease that can be treated.

Besides that, a sick person without the means to treat his disease can't work.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I do not care if healthy Americans will have their premiums go up because of this.

I care about my own safety and my own safety only. And at the moment, health insurance is astronomically expensive for me, and difficult because of a tiny pre existing condition that does not even affect how I live.

If this bill makes my life easier, but makes the lives of healthy Americans who have to pay more money because of this bill harder.....then GOOD!!!

As I said, I only care about my own welfare.

Just as Republicans do not care about me, I will not care about them.

Further proof that abortion is not all bad...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Further proof that abortion is not all bad...

But isn't what he wrote basically the Republican mantra? Fend for yourself and don't support thy neighbor?...Unless he owns a gun and will shoot you

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But isn't what he wrote basically the Republican mantra? Fend for yourself and don't support thy neighbor?...Unless he owns a gun and will shoot you

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

[letswastemoney]

I do not support the government intervening in other types of business. I would not support government intervention when it comes the the electronics industry for instance, because no one needs televisions or laptops to survive.

But I support more accessible care if it means saving human lives. ANYONE can get into a circumstance where for whatever reason, they lose their job and health insurance and something unforeseen happens.

What happens then?

Are profit making insurance companies going to back you then? The way the system is set up is inhumane, even to those who want to find a job.

You think it's so easy for everyone to find a job?? I have a part time job now, but there have been periods of my life where I went out every single day to every store/business I could find to apply for anything they have, and get turned down. You may have a steady job. That doesn't mean everyone that works hard at finding a steady job will find one.

Just because YOU have a nice, steady situation, does not mean everyone else in this country does. The people voted these people in government in, and this is what government voted for. If anyone doesn't like it, I suggest working harder to get your conservative heroes voted in office.

In any case, I find anyone's human life, hard working or not, important.

We are not animals, we are supposed to be a species of higher intelligence with the means for curing major diseases.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

This isn't the Land of Make Believe. Everyone doesn't get a trophy or a pony. Screwing over future generations which is all the last 25 years of government has done with their debt won't help what's leftover...but then again you don't care about anyone but yourself so what difference does it make.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

You and a road sign have something in common. Its called one way.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No I am not happy that I have a preexisting condition. No I am not happy that I need some help from the liberal side.

I am saying I will vote for anything that supports my cause, and if that goes against your cause,

TOUGH LUCK.

Since you think its okay for a healthy American to pay more for thier health insurance so you dont have to pay alot, can you help me with paying for college for my son?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

Sounds like he likes to get a handout. Im sure he will vote for O'Dumbass in 2012. At least that will be one vote he can count on. Maybe O'Dumbass will give him a bribe also, just like he has been giving his Democrat cronies. This isnt directed towards you Cannon Shell.

[jms62]

The current healthcare system is fine the way it is unless of course you actually get sick and need to use it or worse get sick and lose your job and have to change insurance carriers. These guys will agree, there is nothing wrong with the system http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2005/0...-ceo-make.html