obama demands vote on health care..

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

The military and retired military deserve more than good health care coverage. Call me being greedy if you wish. No COLA raise for retired military or Social Security yet gas and food and clothing goes up. This year the active received a meager %1.4. While his wife is blowing millions of our taxpaying dollars on a bullshit staff for herself that she doesnt need. Yet there is millions of dollars given away every time a country needs help. America needs to taker care of America. No one else will.

I don't consider a COLA increase being greedy by any means, but unfortunately a lot of people are in the same boat this year. My wife didn't get one either and she definitely deserves at least that. As far as government employment/benefits go, the overall tax base isn't any bigger this year because corporations did poorly and used more tax credits on top of that, so it's no surprise they didn't give one. As for giving money to other countries I don't like it because we wouldn't get the same in a time of need but the majority of philanthropy is done outside of government...

Just out of curiosity, what news station do you generally watch? What op/ed pieces do you read? What newspapers/magazines do you read? I feel they are giving you a lot of spin, propaganda, and incorrect truths which is skewing your thoughts.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by philcski

I don't consider a COLA increase being greedy by any means, but unfortunately a lot of people are in the same boat this year. My wife didn't get one either and she definitely deserves at least that. As far as government employment/benefits go, the overall tax base isn't any bigger this year because corporations did poorly and used more tax credits on top of that, so it's no surprise they didn't give one. As for giving money to other countries I don't like it because we wouldn't get the same in a time of need but the majority of philanthropy is done outside of government...

Just out of curiosity, what news station do you generally watch? What op/ed pieces do you read? What newspapers/magazines do you read? I feel they are giving you a lot of spin, propaganda, and incorrect truths which is skewing your thoughts.

As far as magazines go I read Bloodhorse, DRF Simo Weekly and The Horseman which is a Harness Racing magazine. Newspapers I occasionally read the local paper where I live at which is near Houston,TX. I also enjoy listening to Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly on Sirius along with ATRAB. Also I enjoy the fact that Sirius now has a feed of TVG on it when not pre empted by basketball. I also love listening to Howard Stern.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by philcski

I don't consider a COLA increase being greedy by any means, but unfortunately a lot of people are in the same boat this year. My wife didn't get one either and she definitely deserves at least that. As far as government employment/benefits go, the overall tax base isn't any bigger this year because corporations did poorly and used more tax credits on top of that, so it's no surprise they didn't give one. As for giving money to other countries I don't like it because we wouldn't get the same in a time of need but the majority of philanthropy is done outside of government...

Just out of curiosity, what news station do you generally watch? What op/ed pieces do you read? What newspapers/magazines do you read? I feel they are giving you a lot of spin, propaganda, and incorrect truths which is skewing your thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1WUMRgbPR0

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1WUMRgbPR0

Please except a big thank you. This is one of my favorite songs of all time. You have just made my day.

[letswastemoney]

I do not care if healthy Americans will have their premiums go up because of this.

I care about my own safety and my own safety only. And at the moment, health insurance is astronomically expensive for me, and difficult because of a tiny pre existing condition that does not even affect how I live.

If this bill makes my life easier, but makes the lives of healthy Americans who have to pay more money because of this bill harder.....then GOOD!!!

As I said, I only care about my own welfare.

Just as Republicans do not care about me, I will not care about them.

[clyde]

^^^^ Jimmy cracked corn......

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I do not care if healthy Americans will have their premiums go up because of this.

I care about my own safety and my own safety only. And at the moment, health insurance is astronomically expensive for me, and difficult because of a tiny pre existing condition that does not even affect how I live.

If this bill makes my life easier, but makes the lives of healthy Americans who have to pay more money because of this bill harder.....then GOOD!!!

As I said, I only care about my own welfare.

Just as Republicans do not care about me, I will not care about them.

Im sure you could care less about what the majority of American people feel about this bill.


Just curious what are your views on the following:

1. Do you feel a person who can work but isnt trying to find a job deserves free health insurance?

2. Do you feel an illegal should get this insurance. I dont think its going to affect them, they already undeservingly get everything free?

3. Why should a healthy American have to pay more so you can have health insurance?

I do feel for you having a hard time getting cheap insurance with you pre existing condition. If O'Dumbass is trying to regulate health insurance, why cant he regulate the price of gas? Im also sure that the Democrats could care less about you also.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sure you could care less about what the majority of American people feel about this bill.


Just curious what are your views on the following:

1. Do you feel a person who can work but isnt trying to find a job deserves free health insurance?

2. Do you feel an illegal should get this insurance. I dont think its going to affect them, they already undeservingly get everything free?

3. Why should a healthy American have to pay more so you can have health insurance?

I do feel for you having a hard time getting cheap insurance with you pre existing condition. If O'Dumbass is trying to regulate health insurance, why cant he regulate the price of gas? Im also sure that the Democrats could care less about you also.

1. In certain instances, yes. I think human life is important, and even though that person isn't trying hard now, you think he's going to encouraged to be encouraged to try in the future when he's thrown a $40,000 bill for a life saving surgery?

There should be free basic protection.

2. No I don't believe illegals should get free protection. The problem with illegals....is I don't believe they should even be in this country in the first place. They're illegal!!! and they eat up resources that should be reserved US citizens, like taking up doctor's time and filling up classrooms with students that shouldn't even be here in the first place.

If an illegal comes into the hospital, and can be identified as an illegal, maybe after initial treatment, I think he/she should get kicked out of the country.

That stance is probably more conservative than what most Democrats believe.

3. There may come a day when for whatever reason, a completely healthy person loses their health insurance and comes up with cancer.

I just think there should be basic protection that prevents someone from losing their life savings if they have a major disease that can be treated.

Besides that, a sick person without the means to treat his disease can't work.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I do not care if healthy Americans will have their premiums go up because of this.

I care about my own safety and my own safety only. And at the moment, health insurance is astronomically expensive for me, and difficult because of a tiny pre existing condition that does not even affect how I live.

If this bill makes my life easier, but makes the lives of healthy Americans who have to pay more money because of this bill harder.....then GOOD!!!

As I said, I only care about my own welfare.

Just as Republicans do not care about me, I will not care about them.

Further proof that abortion is not all bad...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Further proof that abortion is not all bad...

But isn't what he wrote basically the Republican mantra? Fend for yourself and don't support thy neighbor?...Unless he owns a gun and will shoot you

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But isn't what he wrote basically the Republican mantra? Fend for yourself and don't support thy neighbor?...Unless he owns a gun and will shoot you

No he actually quoted directly from the liberal handbook. "Oh woe is me, let someone else take care of poor ole me."

He is complaining that he pays too much for health insurance because of HIS preexisting condition and that he is happy that everyone else has to pay for him. Not that he cant get insurance or that his condition effects his ability to earn. It is simply more expensive that he likes.

That is hardly an American ideal, well, outside of outside of Haight-Asbury and the White House.

I mean seriously what person with any dignity says something like that? "I was an unlucky in the gene department and because of that I am happy to be a burden to others?"

No doubt there are hypocrites on both sides. You hear a lot of whining on the right about illegal immigration yet very few of them are lining up to do the work that the illegals are literally crawling across the border to do.

And like I have said before, a lot of the actual healthcare changes arent bad ideas. But the attitude that this particular guy takes is sad.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by GBBob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1WUMRgbPR0

LOL

perhaps I'm going too deep here...