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Old 03-23-2010, 11:43 AM
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So win the Breeders Cup Distaff (which is the top filly and mare race to win)....then win the Classic (the top race of all races for older horses to win).............and somehow you have been managed into your reputation.

Good grief
Where were those races run again? Oh yea at her home track on used condoms
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:11 PM
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It's kind of funny, that this debate has gotten so heated/argumentative and honestly out of hand that it's turned some Rachael fans totally against Zenyatta and vice versa. Kind of like Yankees Red Sox. Almost like you can't root for Zenyatta if you are for Rachael and so on.
I'll be honest and say for a while I had mixed emotions whether I wanted Zenyatta to win or lose her comback after Rachael lost earlier in the day.
Then after the fact, I personally realized that both the girls are great for the game and that I was glad that Zenyatta was able to stay perfect. Both have been very good/impressive in their own ways and deserve all the accolades that they have recieved. I hope they both continue to be successful (obviously healthy) as they continue with their 2010 campaigns. It would be nice to see them race, but I would settle at this point if they just continue to race throughout 2010.
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:57 PM
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Where were those races run again? Oh yea at her home track on used condoms
So you are saying it would have been better for her to be managed differently instead of those two races in mind?

You have to play the hand your dealt, it in no way changes the success.

I got news for you, she would have cleaned Music Notes clock at Belmont as well.

Carl Lewis would have won the gold in 84' if they ran the 100 in sand, he was just better then they were.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:41 PM
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So you are saying it would have been better for her to be managed differently instead of those two races in mind?

You have to play the hand your dealt, it in no way changes the success.

I got news for you, she would have cleaned Music Notes clock at Belmont as well.

Carl Lewis would have won the gold in 84' if they ran the 100 in sand, he was just better then they were.
Well the hand dealt to her had 7 cards in it and the rest had 5. All im saying is those races where handed to her on a silver platter. She didn't have to do anything extraordinary to win them, sh*t she never had to leave her own bed. The distaff she may have won but the classic, not a shot outside Cali
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:52 PM
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Well the hand dealt to her had 7 cards in it and the rest had 5. All im saying is those races where handed to her on a silver platter. She didn't have to do anything extraordinary to win them, sh*t she never had to leave her own bed. The distaff she may have won but the classic, not a shot outside Cali
because Gio Ponti was so good on dirt? Who the heck was there, RA had already been zapped and laid up.
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:04 PM
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because Gio Ponti was so good on dirt? Who the heck was there, RA had already been zapped and laid up.
Gio Ponti never would have been in the classic if it was run on conventional dirt, it would of been a whole different field. Not a bunch of dirt and turf specialists running on plastic.
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Is it 2010 yet?
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Gio Ponti never would have been in the classic if it was run on conventional dirt, it would of been a whole different field. Not a bunch of dirt and turf specialists running on plastic.
who?
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who?
First of all Rachel would have been pointed towards the Classic and not the Woodward, that's all you need to know, game over.
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Gio Ponti never would have been in the classic if it was run on conventional dirt, it would of been a whole different field. Not a bunch of dirt and turf specialists running on plastic.
Since synthetics play so much like turf, I guess beating them on their favored surface doesnt mean anything.
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The field is cut in half in terms of legitimate contenders by having it on synthetics.

Not every turf horse is going to try to synthetic Classic

All the dirt-only horses have no chance, even if they do try

Cut out the Eastern based G1 dirt horses because the record of the BC shows they have never won on a Pro-Ride BC race, and cut out the turf horses who choose to race in the Turf Classic,

And you have one watered down field filled with a couple of superb turf horses (Gio Ponti, Twice Over)

Eastern-based dirt horses who have no chance
(Summer Bird, Mine That Bird, Regal Ransom, and others)

Then you have the Southern California older horse division (lol)
(Colonel John, Richard's Kid)

Then you have Zenyatta, who can pull off 112ish beyers on any surface.
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Since synthetics play so much like turf, I guess beating them on their favored surface doesnt mean anything.
If you don't have goosebumps after reading this, you don't like horse racing!
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