What if???

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's all weird.

Jess Jackson says no to the Apple Blossom ... than he agrees to run .. but only if they run it 6 days later ... which pushed it to a Friday. Like that 6 extra days he was able to get was going to make a big differnce.

The dummy probably feels like he's been outmaneuvered once by Moss in November, once by Shirreffs cleverly catching him with a cranked up dirt horse at FG, and once by himself when he shrewdly bought himself an extra 6 days in order to agree to a race he ducks.... I think he's outmaneuvered a 4th time by not going because his horse would probably win.

Yeah, Cella pulled a fast one on him by moving the race back a week. After he did that, Jackson should have waited a few weeks, then pulled out of the AB and said she was behind her training and wasn't going to be ready for the AB without sacrificing her form for most of the year. What the RA camp said on Sunday was just ridiculous.

Jackson can turn things back to his favor by again being aggressive with RA. Choose among the Met Mile, Foster, Salvator Mile, Iselin, Whitney, and Woodward for possible starts. She doesn't have to beat males each time, just not embarrass herself (Lady' Secret was 1 for 4 against males in 1986). If she does that, Moss is going to have do more than beat up on the usual suspects in SoCal.

[CSC]

Interesting how originally was a "What if?" thread has seemed to morph into a John Sheriff's tribute page. Seriously this is some funny $hit, trying to see the biggest and brightest minds on the board try to rationalize how a glorified horse like Zenyatta has gone 15 races without a loss is almost worth the price of a admission.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by CSC

Interesting how originally was a "What if?" thread has seemed to morph into a John Sheriff's tribute page. Seriously this is some funny $hit, trying to see the biggest and brightest minds on the board try to rationalize how a glorified horse like Zenatta has gone 15 races without a loss is almost worth the price of a admission.

I agree. Some rug burns on the knees.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Yeah, Jackson can turn things back to his favor by again being aggressive with RA. Choose among the Met Mile, Foster, Salvator Mile, Iselin, Whitney, and Woodward for possible starts. She doesn't have to beat males each time, just not embarrass herself (Lady' Secret was 1 for 4 against males in 1986). If she does that, Moss is going to have do more than beat up on the usual suspects in SoCal.

If she goes in the Met Mile, QR would crush her. But I would love to see her and Zenyatta in a race like the Stephen Foster or Whitney.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

If she goes in the Met Mile, QR would crush her. But I would love to see her and Zenyatta in a race like the Stephen Foster or Whitney.

She would run a clear clear cut second and maybe get close to him if he was not on his game, but I think he would be way to much at 9f.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

If she goes in the Met Mile, QR would crush her. But I would love to see her and Zenyatta in a race like the Stephen Foster or Whitney.

If all three were going to face one another late spring or early summer, I think the best race would be the now-9F Suburban. Quality Road would have ample time from a scheduled appointment in the Met Mile,and I'm sure the connections of the females could find races from a timing perspective that makes sense. The race could highlight the July 4th weekend of racing. With the Breeders' Cup at Churchill this fall, the Foster is a less appealing option, IMO.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If all three were going to face one another late spring or early summer, I think the best race would be the now-9F Suburban. Quality Road would have ample time from a scheduled appointment in the Met Mile,and I'm sure the connections of the females could find races from a timing perspective that makes sense. The race could highlight the July 4th weekend of racing. With the Breeders' Cup at Churchill this fall, the Foster is a less appealing option, IMO.

I think the Whitney is the spot that we see them all.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think the Whitney is the spot that we see them all.

I don't know. I think the one-turn 9F would be more to the liking of the connections of RA and QR, and the big sweeping turns at Belmont would probably appeal more to Zenyatta's connections.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I don't know. I think the one-turn 9F would be more to the liking of the connections of RA and QR, and the big sweeping turns at Belmont would probably appeal more to Zenyatta's connections.

Why do you think the connections of RA and QR would prefer one turn? I guess it's a bit more obvious with QR but I don't know what they would find appealing, given that both horses have speed, about going 9fs at Belmont.

NT

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Why do you think the connections of RA and QR would prefer one turn? I guess it's a bit more obvious with QR but I don't know what they would find appealing, given that both horses have speed, about going 9fs at Belmont.

NT

9F at Saratoga has proven to be a very demanding race in recent years. Put two speed-types in the race together, and I'd think a closer like Zenyatta, assuming she could handle the turns, would probably relish the dynamics. Rachel has already won over the course and distance, so she'd have no excuses (having won the 9F Mother Goose at Belmont last year, and rated while doing it). I'm presuming that QR would be coming off a decent race in the Met Mile, with the nearly 5 weeks that Pletcher seems to like for his horses.