What if???

[Theatrical]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Zenyatta was retired that is a fact , don't confuse the folks here with anything else , she was retired and then un-retired

Geez, so it's Z and her connections who are to blame for RA's defeat on Saturday and consequently, missing the AB. I am totally amazed this thinking that connections of another horse has so much influence on RA and what her connections choose for her. A few days after 01/16th, when Mr. Moss announced Z would run in 2010, her first two tentative races were announced. In JANUARY. Mr. Cella and the media undertook trying to get the two mares together at that point, since both had raced there, dirt, etc. JJ/SA initially said RA would not be ready. Should have stayed with that instead of playing a PR game that backfired. I am sorry that RA lost, but it's not about her loss for me. It is how she looked. I hope her connections can get things headed in the right direction.

However, this blame crap because she lost is beyond ridiculous. Take it up with JJ or dial him up and leave him a message. He's who some of you need to talk to. His name is on RA's papers, not Jerry Moss nor John Shirreffs.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Theatrical

Geez, so it's Z and her connections who are to blame for RA's defeat on Saturday and consequently, missing the AB.

No.

She is only the sole horse to blame for this horse not winning a Grade 1 stakes race ...



I am a big fan of history ... and would have loved to see a horse who was 4th or worse in 6 races in a row - and 10 out of the last 11 win a Grade 1.

I have no problem that her connections "retired" her but kept her in full training. Strategic misdirection of the populace for a greater good. I'd have done the same. It seems to bother Gales though.

[10 pnt move up]

I know what her prior record is but I thought Dance to My Tune ran HUGE last saturday, she was kinda unlucky to lose.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I know what her prior record is but I thought Dance to My Tune ran HUGE last saturday, she was kinda unlucky to lose.

She did run huge ... she set a very strong pace and held on gamely for a horse stretching out 2.5 furlongs in distance. I'm not exactly impressed with what was behind her though.

If McPeak had run My Baby Baby ... she probably would have beat Dance to My Tune very soundly.

[MisterB]

Baffert is a horse prodigy type of person. He can see and smell a good and bad horse from a mile away. He likes to eye up the competion in the morning, besides his own horse flesh. He reminds me of a well trained circus animal.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Theatrical

Geez, so it's Z and her connections who are to blame for RA's defeat on Saturday and consequently, missing the AB. I am totally amazed this thinking that connections of another horse has so much influence on RA and what her connections choose for her. A few days after 01/16th, when Mr. Moss announced Z would run in 2010, her first two tentative races were announced. In JANUARY. Mr. Cella and the media undertook trying to get the two mares together at that point, since both had raced there, dirt, etc. JJ/SA initially said RA would not be ready. Should have stayed with that instead of playing a PR game that backfired. I am sorry that RA lost, but it's not about her loss for me. It is how she looked. I hope her connections can get things headed in the right direction.

However, this blame crap because she lost is beyond ridiculous. Take it up with JJ or dial him up and leave him a message. He's who some of you need to talk to. His name is on RA's papers, not Jerry Moss nor John Shirreffs.

there is no blame on the loss, she got beat fair and square

what the story doesn't tell is that if SA had total control the "accelerated" training program would not have happened and she wouldn't have been pushed too hard too early to make the race , i'm glad she lost because now JJ could at least be talked into saving her for later in the year once the trainer gets to do his job the correct way (assuming she is not hurt)

if Z didn't retire maybe they would have brought her back earlier than late Jan
and her training would have been much much further along so as to be able to make a matchup race in early spring