|
|
 |
|
|
|
#1
03-17-2010, 12:50 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
would sheriffs run Z against RA if the roles were reversed ??? take a long hard time to answer the question , i think the answer is fairly simple 
|
|
#2
03-17-2010, 12:57 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
What is Jay Hovdey's deal anyway? Can the guy be any more pro-Zenyatta? Has Moss promised him a breeding or something?
__________________
The world's foremost expert on virtually everything on the Redskins 2010 season: "Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs."
|
|
#3
03-17-2010, 01:03 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
|
|
#4
03-17-2010, 01:11 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
matt it has nothing to do with winning or losing the prep if zenyatta did not train from early sept to late jan , then started breezing in late jan ,then had the hard race last sat to point for a race in april (the AB)and RA say won a bc race and didn't miss a beat since oct do you really believe that moss/sheriffs would really want to take her on ...... think about it hard and long , remember these are animals , these are not machines , if you have never been on the backside with these animals i know it's hard to imagine becuase when we watch them race they look like machines with a key and gas pedal attached to them , it's not that simple
|
|
#5
03-17-2010, 01:15 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
I do agree with you as far as the conditioning goes and have stated that I personally think that Rachaels camp would have scratched out of the AB even if she dug in and held on to win on Saturday.
__________________
Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
|
|
#6
03-17-2010, 01:03 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
There was no sinister " retirement " plot--what are you a fooking conspiracist ??? Moss wants run against Rachel, but NOBODY wants Rachel to run when she is not ready . The question is--what is ready ??? And when ???? She should have benefitted from her prep race, and whether she accepted running in the AB or not, should be training for something, not going backwards . The OUTCOME of this prep for Rachel was the determining factor--not fitness, not equipment, simply the outcome. Had she won by 11--as is suggested had Zardana passed, the AB would be on, and it would not be a fair race for Rachel . Keeping a horse on top of their game is an obvious goal . Preserving wins is also, but has the downside of being critiqued as avoiding hard competion . This has been said about Zenyatta, and at times I do agree ... It has never been said about Rachel, but it needs to said now .
|
|
#7
03-17-2010, 01:06 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Zenyatta is the most consistent all time Polycrap performer. That's all you can say. She ran once on dirt and it was a solid effort. This year she can prove a lot more. Let me see her beat older males at Toga or CD before annointing Shirreffs Pope.
|
|
#8
03-17-2010, 01:17 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Zenyatta was retired that is a fact , don't confuse the folks here with anything else , she was retired and then un-retired
|
|
#9
03-17-2010, 01:19 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#10
03-17-2010, 01:47 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Geez, so it's Z and her connections who are to blame for RA's defeat on Saturday and consequently, missing the AB. I am totally amazed this thinking that connections of another horse has so much influence on RA and what her connections choose for her. A few days after 01/16th, when Mr. Moss announced Z would run in 2010, her first two tentative races were announced. In JANUARY. Mr. Cella and the media undertook trying to get the two mares together at that point, since both had raced there, dirt, etc. JJ/SA initially said RA would not be ready. Should have stayed with that instead of playing a PR game that backfired. I am sorry that RA lost, but it's not about her loss for me. It is how she looked. I hope her connections can get things headed in the right direction. However, this blame crap because she lost is beyond ridiculous. Take it up with JJ or dial him up and leave him a message. He's who some of you need to talk to. His name is on RA's papers, not Jerry Moss nor John Shirreffs.
|
|
#11
03-17-2010, 02:03 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
She is only the sole horse to blame for this horse not winning a Grade 1 stakes race ...  I am a big fan of history ... and would have loved to see a horse who was 4th or worse in 6 races in a row - and 10 out of the last 11 win a Grade 1. I have no problem that her connections "retired" her but kept her in full training. Strategic misdirection of the populace for a greater good. I'd have done the same. It seems to bother Gales though.
|
|
#12
03-17-2010, 02:07 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I know what her prior record is but I thought Dance to My Tune ran HUGE last saturday, she was kinda unlucky to lose.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
|
|
#13
03-17-2010, 02:09 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
If McPeak had run My Baby Baby ... she probably would have beat Dance to My Tune very soundly.
|
|
#14
03-17-2010, 06:31 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
there is no blame on the loss, she got beat fair and square what the story doesn't tell is that if SA had total control the "accelerated" training program would not have happened and she wouldn't have been pushed too hard too early to make the race , i'm glad she lost because now JJ could at least be talked into saving her for later in the year once the trainer gets to do his job the correct way (assuming she is not hurt) if Z didn't retire maybe they would have brought her back earlier than late Jan and her training would have been much much further along so as to be able to make a matchup race in early spring
|
|
#15
03-17-2010, 06:28 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Folks are already confused--fans and writers alike ... Don't drag up that " unretired " stuff again Mr Original ... Some of us knew she was never retired, and that an emotional outburst was interpreted as such by the press after the BCC . Shove your cut and pastes--Moss' words after the BCC were " what more can she do ? " I don't care what was said after the fact--the mare dictated what was the future here . And it had NOTHING to do with what I posted whatsoever . You are free to have your own interpretations and opinions, but do not shove them down my throat as fact, ad nauseum--they are not ...
|
|
#16
03-17-2010, 06:34 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#17
03-17-2010, 06:54 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Please--not this again---PRESS SAID THIS... If you buy all the press says have done with it--I know I am . And even it it were true-Jackson and Asmussen are big boys not to be coerced by the alleged second best horse " resuming " training.. I did this here already---redundancy is just that . Neither Moss nor Shireffs were clear about this, but the press was ... Finis ...
|
|
#18
03-17-2010, 06:57 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
#2
What if Quality Road was healthy ALL last year?
|
|
#19
03-17-2010, 06:59 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
“It was very emotional when I retired her because I thought she absolutely did as much as any horse could do in their career,” Moss said of Zenyatta, who is unbeaten in 14 races. Emphasis mine. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/sp...7zenyatta.html
__________________
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
|
|
#20
03-17-2010, 07:03 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
They had her paraded in between stakes races .... They renamed a stakes race named after Lady's Secret after her ... It wasn't till Mid January when she was offically unretired. I think it's great that they brought her back. Obviously she was never retired ... so who were they trying to fool? By they, I mean the press of course.
|
 |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Hybrid Mode
