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Old 03-15-2010, 10:21 PM
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You can run the horse in the Claiming Crown races.

For what it's worth, I think someone's gonna claim him.

NT
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:24 PM
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You can run the horse in the Claiming Crown races.

For what it's worth, I think someone's gonna claim him.

NT
He already qualifies for the Claiming Crown race. The turf race is 25k and below. The two 16k ones are dirt sprints.

This f'n horse is probably gonna be scratched.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:31 PM
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He already qualifies for the Claiming Crown race. The turf race is 25k and below. The two 16k ones are dirt sprints.

This f'n horse is probably gonna be scratched.
Scavs the horse is The Golden Man with a twist your best bet is to claim him for 16 wait 45 days till the lawn is opened at Penn and sart him there.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:35 PM
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Scavs the horse is The Golden Man with a twist your best bet is to claim him for 16 wait 45 days till the lawn is opened at Penn and sart him there.
Argh!

I never said I wanted to claim any of these horses. I wouldn't claim a horse off of Dutrow with anyone's money.

There was a horse at Philly the other day that was a perfect claim but we didn't have time to turn it around because we saw it too late. He was an IN bred that broke his maiden against open company with all his conditions left and could have run against IN breds for big money and dominated. He got claimed by a Philly guy so maybe we still have a shot.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:38 PM
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Argh!

I never said I wanted to claim any of these horses. I wouldn't claim a horse off of Dutrow with anyone's money.

There was a horse at Philly the other day that was a perfect claim but we didn't have time to turn it around because we saw it too late. He was an IN bred that broke his maiden against open company with all his conditions left and could have run against IN breds for big money and dominated. He got claimed by a Philly guy so maybe we still have a shot.
Uhm Scavs the big dog is on a plane surely you can tell whomever to drop a ticket?
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:40 PM
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Uhm Scavs the big dog is on a plane surely you can tell whomever to drop a ticket?
It wasn't that. Just alot going on that day and didn't get a chance to look at him, there will be others, and just for you Freddy, I try and find any PA bred that is racing out there.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:42 PM
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It wasn't that. Just alot going on that day and didn't get a chance to look at him, there will be others
There are 50 decent Indy breds a year current..You missed? Come on Scavs that is all you..BTW they all have an issue
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:49 AM
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It wasn't that. Just alot going on that day and didn't get a chance to look at him, there will be others, and just for you Freddy, I try and find any PA bred that is racing out there.
OMG - this is like deja'vu' all over again, especially with the IN bred......

I love claiming discussions, being a claiming owner - it's always an opportunity to learn something.

I'd love to hear more about the logic of claiming an IN-bred at Philly Park. Can you expand on the thought process, please?
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:30 AM
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Should be a scratch anyway. Coming back up north soon, and NJ lawn most likely. You don't come back and train a horse after a your best TOP speed figure if there is a major problem. IEAH can make more money in NJ with this horse.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:27 AM
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It's an interesting race. Dutrow is also the trainer of the 2nd fav, Formal King. That horse also appears to be a bit of a gift at the $15K claim price, since he's stepping down from $25K pricetag in which he finished 2nd of 11, 7 lengths in front of the rest of the field.

Dutrow was a past trainer (until claimed away in January) of the 3rd fav, Optimer. (Optimer was finally claimed for $25K after winning 4 straight $25K claimers.) In the race he was claimed, he finished 6th.

I like betting against dropdowns like Adagio and to a lesser extent, Formal King. Maybe Gaelic Storm?

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Old 03-15-2010, 10:26 PM
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For what it's worth, I think someone's gonna claim him.

NT
Probably will...but the question is what do you think they get out of the horse? Eat him...their money back...a little profit...or a nice starter horse who's a moneymaker?
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:34 AM
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You can't win any races if they can't walk the next day.

Im not saying Adagio is crippled. He will never be worth more than where hes running. Those guys are busted probably need to pay off a couple armanis. 15 seems reasonable. SOmebody coulud have fun with that horse and be hard to get hurt.
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:37 PM
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You can't win any races if they can't walk the next day.

Im not saying Adagio is crippled. He will never be worth more than where hes running. Those guys are busted probably need to pay off a couple armanis. 15 seems reasonable. SOmebody coulud have fun with that horse and be hard to get hurt.
Bid, the first half of your post seems to contradict the 2nd. From it's last couple of races, the horse would appear to be worth a lot more that $15K. To be worth $15K, there have to be some significant issues. When there are significant issues, buyers can indeed get hurt.

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I like betting against dropdowns like Adagio and to a lesser extent, Formal King. Maybe Gaelic Storm?
The scratch probably saved me from a losing bet. Formal King won with ease.


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