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Old 03-15-2010, 02:52 PM
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It is a guarantee Rivelli, Catalano and Miller will all have claims on that horse if he does end up running because he will fit Arlington because he will then qualify for 16k starters up here.

Since you've guaranteed it, I assume you will be very happy to give me 10:1 on the other side.

I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I'm almost certain you are dead wrong.
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Old 03-15-2010, 02:58 PM
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Since you've guaranteed it, I assume you will be very happy to give me 10:1 on the other side.

I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I'm almost certain you are dead wrong.
Ok, so used the wrong word of 'guarantee'. And I would never bet on something as stupid as this bet would be.

Those guys jump all over horses exactly like that, and I am sure you follow Illinois racing so closely you would know that. Gran Esteno comes to mind when claimed for 20 or 25k down at Gulfstream when he was being cut in half. Rivelli claimed that horse off of Dutrow I think, then he came here and romped and Stidham claimed him and won the Washington Park Handicap with him later in the meet.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:02 PM
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Ok, so used the wrong word of 'guarantee'. And I would never bet on something as stupid as this bet would be.

Those guys jump all over horses exactly like that, and I am sure you follow Illinois racing so closely you would know that. Gran Esteno comes to mind when claimed for 20 or 25k down at Gulfstream when he was being cut in half. Rivelli claimed that horse off of Dutrow I think, then he came here and romped and Stidham claimed him and won the Washington Park Handicap with him later in the meet.
Let me correct myself so we have to be so accurate, Gran Estreno was claimed for 20k after being dropped from 25k by Dutrow, then he romped up here and Stidham took him for 20k and moved him up the ladder.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:03 PM
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Ok, so used the wrong word of 'guarantee'. And I would never bet on something as stupid as this bet would be.

Those guys jump all over horses exactly like that, and I am sure you follow Illinois racing so closely you would know that. Gran Esteno comes to mind when claimed for 20 or 25k down at Gulfstream when he was being cut in half. Rivelli claimed that horse off of Dutrow I think, then he came here and romped and Stidham claimed him and won the Washington Park Handicap.

I don't need to follow racing at Arlington even one bit to know that you are just typing.

Everyone understands why a horse has value as a claim, including Rick Dutrow, but they also understand why it might be dangerous to claim certain horses. Maybe Adagio is claimed, but then again, one might have thought the same thing when he ran twice for $25K, once in NY and once in NJ.

Hey, here's an idea, why don't you tell your boss to claim the horse....hell, he might not even have to win a shake to get this prize for those Arlington Starter Allowances. And, I'll tell my boss about these clever Starter races....as we gotta start running them in NY.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:09 PM
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I don't need to follow racing at Arlington even one bit to know that you are just typing.

Everyone understands why a horse has value as a claim, including Rick Dutrow, but they also understand why it might be dangerous to claim certain horses. Maybe Adagio is claimed, but then again, one might have thought the same thing when he ran twice for $25K, once in NY and once in NJ.

Hey, here's an idea, why don't you tell your boss to claim the horse....hell, he might not even have to win a shake to get this prize for those Arlington Starter Allowances. And, I'll tell my boss about these clever Starter races....as we gotta start running them in NY.
That isn't the type of horse that we claim, nor would we. The type of horse that we would have claimed ran yesterday at Philly in the 3rd race, and we passed.

Illinois guys don't claim in NY or NJ. But they do claim at Gulfstream, and have for years off of the NY guys dropping.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:11 PM
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That isn't the type of horse that we claim, nor would we. The type of horse that we would have claimed ran yesterday at Philly in the 3rd race, and we passed.

Illinois guys don't claim in NY or NJ. But they do claim at Gulfstream, and have for years off of the NY guys dropping.

Oh, I get it, only those Illinois guys know about starter handicaps, and the NY and NJ guys are a bunch of dopes that missed out on a golden opportunity.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:13 PM
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Oh, I get it, only those Illinois guys know about starter handicaps, and the NY and NJ guys are a bunch of dopes that missed out on a golden opportunity.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.
I WAS NEVER talking about NY or NJ guys. Everything is about the east coast for you. I was SIMPLY stating that those IL guys will claim a horse like this.

If the horse even runs, we'll see on Wednesday.

Does NY even run straight starter races, or are they conditioned?
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:14 PM
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Does NY even run straight starter races, or are they conditioned?

This is clever.

You meant this as a joke....right?
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:15 PM
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I WAS NEVER talking about NY or NJ guys. Everything is about the east coast for you. I was SIMPLY stating that those IL guys will claim a horse like this.

This part was a joke, too....right?
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I am sure you follow Illinois racing so closely you would know that.
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He's had 3 races since he was in for 25k, a 35k win, just missed for 50k and the GR I four length loss. He is probably held together with rubber bands and paper clips but there will be many (whoever they are, and from where) who will be waiting in line for 15K
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