Asmussen: No Rachel for Blossom

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

she is short and would still be short for the next one

Based on?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Based on?

What do you make of Steve Asmussen stating that Rachel Alexandra wasn't handling his "accelerated" training program the way he had hoped? He also seemed satisfied yet unimpressed with the 6f work in company a couple of weeks ago.

Does the contention that a decent (if disappointing) comeback race will help a horse "move forward" somehow negate all the lackluster training leading up to it?

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What do you make of Steve Asmussen stating that Rachel Alexandra wasn't handling his "accelerated" training program the way he had hoped? He also seemed satisfied yet unimpressed with the 6f work in company a couple of weeks ago.

Does the contention that a decent (if disappointing) comeback race will help a horse "move forward" somehow negate all the lackluster training leading up to it?

O lets not forget the beyer, she ran lights out over Zen. RIGHT! She is toast now. Retirement soon!!!!

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Based on?

info from toga chuck

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

info from toga chuck

So the people that are giving you info from Saratoga have a crystal ball that tells them that she would be short a month from now after having had a race and probably three more works under her belt?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So the people that are giving you info from Saratoga have a crystal ball that tells them that she would be short a month from now after having had a race and probably three more works under her belt?

chuck she just started working on jan 27 , zenyatta hasn't missed a beat since oct

ra has been out since when sept

so from sept tp jan she did nothing - correct

1st work on jan 27 , zenyatta didn't miss a beat

they both ran yesterday and the AB is when 3 weeks - how could she possible be ready to face Z that amount of time? how could she be ready for a peak effort ?

[Sightseek]

I feel bad for the poor folks who can't collect $100,000 now just for putting their horse in the gate.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

chuck she just started working on jan 27 , zenyatta hasn't missed a beat since oct

ra has been out since when sept

so from sept tp jan she did nothing - correct

1st work on jan 27 , zenyatta didn't miss a beat

they both ran yesterday and the AB is when 3 weeks - how could she possible be ready to face Z that amount of time? how could she be ready for a peak effort ?

So Assmussen rushed the horse to get ready for last Sat's race when he knew she couldnt be ready on April 9th anyway?

This is bs logic especially when you know that she isnt running so there is no chance that you can be proven wrong.

Horses used to prep in sprint races all the time before stretching out. I guess none of them were ready either.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So Assmussen rushed the horse to get ready for last Sat's race when he knew she couldnt be ready on April 9th anyway?

This is bs logic especially when you know that she isnt running so there is no chance that you can be proven wrong.

Horses used to prep in sprint races all the time before stretching out. I guess none of them were ready either.

let's say you were the trainer chuck and mr jackson came to you and wanted you to make the April 9th race against Z. would you be able to get her ready to face Z in that amount of time ?

the facts are RA off since sept , works start jan 27 , Zenyatta retired but not missing a beat in training for some odd reason since the BC - is there any possible way that RA could be at 100 % for this race on april 9th , we all know Z is and will be at 100% , but could rachel be there? is it really fair for RA to face Z on april 9th given the fact that 1 horse has not missed a beat since oct and the other one had a 5 mth layoff and will have about 2 1/2 months of acclerated training? if the shoe was on the other foot would sheirffs really run Z against RA?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

let's say you were the trainer chuck and mr jackson came to you and wanted you to make the April 9th race against Z. would you be able to get her ready to face Z in that amount of time ?

the facts are RA off since sept , works start jan 27 , Zenyatta retired but not missing a beat in training for some odd reason since the BC - is there any possible way that RA could be at 100 % for this race on april 9th , we all know Z is and will be at 100% , but could rachel be there? is it really fair for RA to face Z on april 9th given the fact that 1 horse has not missed a beat since oct and the other one had a 5 mth layoff and will have about 2 1/2 months of acclerated training? if the shoe was on the other foot would sheirffs really run Z against RA?

Rachel actually didn't start working until January 31.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

let's say you were the trainer chuck and mr jackson came to you and wanted you to make the April 9th race against Z. would you be able to get her ready to face Z in that amount of time ?

the facts are RA off since sept , works start jan 27 , Zenyatta retired but not missing a beat in training for some odd reason since the BC - is there any possible way that RA could be at 100 % for this race on april 9th , we all know Z is and will be at 100% , but could rachel be there? is it really fair for RA to face Z on april 9th given the fact that 1 horse has not missed a beat since oct and the other one had a 5 mth layoff and will have about 2 1/2 months of acclerated training? if the shoe was on the other foot would sheirffs really run Z against RA?

Your logic makes sense if you are talking about the 1st race back off of a layoff, not the second. What Zenyatta has done or is doing doesnt have any bearing on RA's fitness level.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by gales0678

let's say you were the trainer chuck and mr jackson came to you and wanted you to make the April 9th race against Z. would you be able to get her ready to face Z in that amount of time ?

the facts are RA off since sept , works start jan 27 , Zenyatta retired but not missing a beat in training for some odd reason since the BC - is there any possible way that RA could be at 100 % for this race on april 9th , we all know Z is and will be at 100% , but could rachel be there? is it really fair for RA to face Z on april 9th given the fact that 1 horse has not missed a beat since oct and the other one had a 5 mth layoff and will have about 2 1/2 months of acclerated training? if the shoe was on the other foot would sheirffs really run Z against RA?

I still don't understand what I'm missing here.
Did RA run 130 BSFs all last year and all of the sudden run a 75 last Saturday? I don't think so. Did she run back to her top numbers in her first back? No, but she ran well enough and fast enough that it seems perfectly reasonable to expect that she might be close to where she was last year in her next start.
People (including the connections apparently) make it sound as if she went from being Citation last year to being a $5K claimer in her first race this year. Neither is the case.