Zenyatta

[Payson Dave]

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

an opinion, but certainly not a fact as for the moment you can't prove it. you can give reasons til the cows come home for having that opinion....but that doesn't mean you proved it.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

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in this game you make money when your opinion is correct and you lose when it is not.... I seem to recall your opinion being wrong at least as much as anyone elses

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

opinions are like ......


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in this game you make money when your opinion is correct and you lose when it is not.... I seem to recall your opinion being wrong at least as much as anyone elses

He's gearing up to put $1,000 to win on Z in the Apple Blossem and if she wins he will no doubt bust out his pom poms and tell us he is the best handicapper in the world!

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by pointman

He's gearing up to put $1,000 to win on Z in the Apple Blossem and if she wins he will no doubt bust out his pom poms and tell us he is the best handicapper in the world!

How is this different from making sure to always check a certain someone's NYRA picks before putting down YOUR money? At least he basically has his OWN opinion.

Enjoy the day's events.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

How is this different from making sure to always check a certain someone's NYRA picks before putting down YOUR money? At least he basically has his OWN opinion.

Enjoy the day's events.

having an opinion is good.... confusing opinion with fact is not so good

[pointman]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

How is this different from making sure to always check a certain someone's NYRA picks before putting down YOUR money? At least he basically has his OWN opinion.

Enjoy the day's events.

Unlike you, I don't have the time to pour over racing videos to obtain all the information that I would like to have before I make my selections. I am sure you will try to lump me into a speed figures guy, but frankly, I see them as only one piece of information to use with other factors in handicapping. Regardless of what you think of Serling, he provides valuable information to people like me who play the game for fun, not for a living. I would be a fool not to take time to factor that information into my handicapping.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by pointman

Unlike you, I don't have the time to pour over racing videos to obtain all the information that I would like to have before I make my selections. I am sure you will try to lump me into a speed figures guy, but frankly, I see them as only one piece of information to use with other factors in handicapping. Regardless of what you think of Serling, he provides valuable information to people like me who play the game for fun, not for a living. I would be a fool not to take time to factor that information into my handicapping.

Well said...One thing you know from Serling is he is telling the world exactly were his betting dollars are going if at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!What else do you want then that a Fat Chart?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by pointman

Unlike you, I don't have the time to pour over racing videos to obtain all the information that I would like to have before I make my selections. I am sure you will try to lump me into a speed figures guy, but frankly, I see them as only one piece of information to use with other factors in handicapping. Regardless of what you think of Serling, he provides valuable information to people like me who play the game for fun, not for a living. I would be a fool not to take time to factor that information into my handicapping.

I have nothing against Serling. I respect Serling, and his opinion, and always have. I consider Serling to be one of the best trip handicappers, if not the best, around. And, his game is constantly improving. I thought this was obvious.

This game is brutal and I'd be the last person to deny anyone the opportunity to do whatever it takes to cash a bet. Here, however, there are a number of different factions and I just never felt the need to go with the consensus.

Nothing more than that involved.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

sadly, there are some who think one or the other isn't special, when in fact both are.

i didn't see either race. i'll have to go to twinspires to see the replays. we didn't get home in time from quiz bowl regionals (our team won, yay! my son was mvp-a bit of bragging is warranted i think!)....anyway, i hope they're both as close to 100% in a few weeks time as possible, and that they are still able to have the race.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sadly, there are some who think one or the other isn't special, when in fact both are.

i didn't see either race. i'll have to go to twinspires to see the replays. we didn't get home in time from quiz bowl regionals (our team won, yay! my son was mvp-a bit of bragging is warranted i think!)....anyway, i hope they're both as close to 100% in a few weeks time as possible, and that they are still able to have the race.

One of them beat a field of pigs but did it stylishly after some trouble.

The other one was way short.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sadly, there are some who think one or the other isn't special, when in fact both are.

i didn't see either race. i'll have to go to twinspires to see the replays. we didn't get home in time from quiz bowl regionals (our team won, yay! my son was mvp-a bit of bragging is warranted i think!)....anyway, i hope they're both as close to 100% in a few weeks time as possible, and that they are still able to have the race.

Deb, nice reboard on your sons win and mvp

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GPK

Deb, nice reboard on your sons win and mvp

lol
that poor quiz bowl sponsor has had one zeigler or another (and one year, kelly and eric at the same time) for eight years now. i asked her if she was ready to be zeigler-free?

we're heading to the state comp in a few weeks (april 10-wonder what races i'll miss?) and then he made the all-star competition.....

so glad he's graduating in a few months!



btw, didn't win a dime.

[GPK]

Although I'm sure they are a little dissapointed, I can imagine Jackson/Assmusan are too terribly upset in losing a prep race.