Pletcher and his TC Comments

Originally Posted by Scav

He is currently 0 for 49

And which one of those horses was favored or was expected to win one of those races? Zero. Tomorrow will mark the first time he sends one(actuallly two) with a legitimate chance to win one.

[Gander]

So he sent out 49 mules? Thats hard to believe. What difference does it make if they were favored or not?

Originally Posted by Gander

So he sent out 49 mules? Thats hard to believe. What difference does it make if they were favored or not?

Well I guess it doesnt. But its not like he failed to get one who really had a shot to win.
I know Tim, Allen Jerkens and Mandella are also complete failures whose remarks should be scoffed at, they like Pletcher are bums for never winning a Tri Crown race. Isn't that kind of silly?

[Exceller]

Could be a moot point after tomorrow. I say he wins 10 before it is done.

Originally Posted by Exceller

Could be a moot point after tomorrow. I say he wins 10 before it is done.

I say 15. Hes only 38. I'd say one every other year for 30 years is completely attainable by him. Lukas won his first in his 50's.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I say 15. Hes only 38. I'd say one every other year for 30 years is completely attainable by him. Lukas won his first in his 50's.

1 every other year? What is he Tiger Woods. He will be competing with his younger talent for years so i am going to say 8-10.

Originally Posted by Exceller

1 every other year? What is he Tiger Woods. He will be competing with his younger talent for years so i am going to say 8-10.

Great point!!! I forgot about that!! Seth will go on his own some day and win serious races. Geez, you ever meet Seth Exceller? I'm not kidding, he looks like an 18 year old. I think hes only 30 or 31. Imagine being 31 and having been Pletchers head assistant already for over two years? Geez, think hes got a head start in the game?

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Great point!!! I forgot about that!! Seth will go on his own some day and win serious races. Geez, you ever meet Seth Exceller? I'm not kidding, he looks like an 18 year old. I think hes only 30 or 31. Imagine being 31 and having been Pletchers head assistant already for over two years? Geez, think hes got a head start in the game?

Don't know who he is but people skills are a huge thing in getting new owners. Pletcher and his mentor Lukas have great people skills. Pletcher also has his dad so he has a little leg up on everyone. I think George Weaver might have worked for Pletcher too. Maybe, and he seems pretty young.

[Gander]

Of course the guy wins 15, probably more. Hes only 38 and hes already had 49 chances, of which none have gotten it done. By the time he hits 50 he will probably have sent out over 100 horses. By the time hes 60, maybe 200 horses. Strength in numbers.

I dont recall saying he was a failure. Show me where I said that?

Originally Posted by Gander

Of course the guy wins 15, probably more. Hes only 38 and hes already had 49 chances, of which none have gotten it done. By the time he hits 50 he will probably have sent out over 100 horses. By the time hes 60, maybe 200 horses. Strength in numbers.

I dont recall saying he was a failure. Show me where I said that?

Well you asked the rhetorical question Tim to which I know you knew the answer. So I gave you a rhetorical answer.
Todd made an intelligent statement. He said the only horse with an incentive to run in the Preakness was the Derby winner. Noone else wants to beat the **** out of their horse with 3 races in 3 states in 5 weeks. Thats not valid? especially since he just didn't speak out, he was asked specifically by someone what he felt about the fact that not one horse this year will compete in all three legs. I dunno where others find fault in that but i sure don't see any. The fact that he hasnt won a tri crown race yet doesnt make him less of a credible person to answer that question. He gave an honest candid answer. Hell the Sheikh is just outright skipping the Belmont with a horsew ho would have been 1-2 and I don't see anybody bashing him. Quite frankly, he did the right thing. Why beat the hell out of a horse back on three weeks rest with all the races left this year to run in?
Fact is that the "traditionalists" don't own or train horses. real easy to tell someone else what to do with their property. fact is that people no longer believe that running in 3 races that quick is good for a horse. Lets take teh Sheikh, heck he doesnt need money, he doesnt need stud money either!!!! yet he made a choice not to run in the Belmont. Now what does that tell you? It tells me that a guy with no financial pressure at all decided to do what he felt was best for his horse. Obviously others agree with him.