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Old 03-09-2010, 06:22 PM
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Well the summer is a coming and you and yours will be behind the eight ball racing for popcorn and peanuts daily.. Perhaps you haven't digested 8mil to 5.8 so let me help.. You are working for 20% less money...its a pay cut! Uhm MP is will be attracting the best of the best..I guess 3 and 4 don't think they can hang when the chips are on the table.. Jeez throw your hat in the ring
3&4 seem happy to me.

Our ring is So Cal racing. Both guys love it here. Have great lives and make plenty of money.

As long as racing exisits in So. Cal. I and hopefully anyone I advise will be right in the middle of it fighting for whatever chips are on the table.

That IS NOT going to change.

Don't bother.

Thanks for listening.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:02 PM
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3&4 seem happy to me.

Our ring is So Cal racing. Both guys love it here. Have great lives and make plenty of money.

As long as racing exisits in So. Cal. I and hopefully anyone I advise will be right in the middle of it fighting for whatever chips are on the table.

That IS NOT going to change.

Don't bother.

Thanks for listening.

3 and 4 (fine jocks) won't be 3 and 4 much longer, but you know that because you recognize they will be running for purses less then second rate curcuits.. Vic the patient is dying, the captain dies in the end as the boat sinks to the bottom
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:06 PM
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3 and 4 (fine jocks) won't be 3 and 4 much longer, but you know that because you recognize they will be running for purses less then second rate curcuits.. Vic the patient is dying, the captain dies in the end as the boat sinks to the bottom
I really cant even tell if your serious, this guy is on fire right now.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:10 PM
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3 and 4 (fine jocks) won't be 3 and 4 much longer, but you know that because you recognize they will be running for purses less then second rate curcuits.. Vic the patient is dying, the captain dies in the end as the boat sinks to the bottom
Joel finished 5th overall in North America last year and never once rode a race outside California. If the patient dies I'll be at bedside holding his hand.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:28 PM
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I think they are two very sharp young jocks..They race against swill but that is another issue and doesn't mean they couldn't complete against the best.. ANYHOO they are racing on RUBBER and in a place were purses are in serious decline.. MORE IMPORTANTLY So Cal is a quickly becoming a joke.. Save the gold cup graded races will be at INDUSTRY MANDATED mins.. Realize an overnight stake at MP will be worth 20% more then a G3 at HP..

Vic could be racing for 7 mil a week instead he will race for 2 mil a week...

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Old 03-09-2010, 11:47 PM
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I think they are two very sharp young jocks..They race against swill but that is another issue and doesn't mean they couldn't complete against the best.. ANYHOO they are racing on RUBBER and in a place were purses are in serious decline.. MORE IMPORTANTLY So Cal is a quickly becoming a joke.. Save the gold cup graded races will be at INDUSTRY MANDATED mins.. Realize an overnight stake at MP will be worth 20% more then a G3 at HP..

Vic could be racing for 7 mil a week instead he will race for 2 mil a week...
Garrett Gomez

Rafael Bejarano

Joe Talamo

Victor Espinoza

Mike Smith

Tyler Baze

Swill?

You're an idiot!!

Hopefully they can continue to "complete" at a high level.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:37 AM
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Vic, kudos for taking most of the good natured and some not good natured barbs with class.

I've been a Martin Garcia fan since really before his "beginning." I think Derby Cat and I both touted some Joel Rosario when he was first appearing in the Bay Area.

I live in California now, and have for 10 years. But I cut my teeth following low to mid ranks midwest racing as a kid and then was a regular attendee at Gulfstream and Hialeah in the 1970's heyday.

I've been to multiple Kentucky Derby's, Woody Stephens numbers of Belmont's and one Preakness. Saratoga twice, and Del Mar once.

Toss in a Prairie Meadows, the requisite Beulah, some Sunland, Emerald Downs, Shakopee and Arlington Park and more, and I've been (about) everywhere (man).

I'm very happy that you share your thoughts and experiences posting here, and happy to occasionally get to follow and enjoy your work in Southern California.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:06 AM
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Vic, kudos for taking most of the good natured and some not good natured barbs with class.

I've been a Martin Garcia fan since really before his "beginning." I think Derby Cat and I both touted some Joel Rosario when he was first appearing in the Bay Area.

I live in California now, and have for 10 years. But I cut my teeth following low to mid ranks midwest racing as a kid and then was a regular attendee at Gulfstream and Hialeah in the 1970's heyday.

I've been to multiple Kentucky Derby's, Woody Stephens numbers of Belmont's and one Preakness. Saratoga twice, and Del Mar once.

Toss in a Prairie Meadows, the requisite Beulah, some Sunland, Emerald Downs, Shakopee and Arlington Park and more, and I've been (about) everywhere (man).

I'm very happy that you share your thoughts and experiences posting here, and happy to occasionally get to follow and enjoy your work in Southern California.
You gonna tell him what you want for Christmas, too?
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:41 AM
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Garrett Gomez

Rafael Bejarano

Joe Talamo

Victor Espinoza

Mike Smith

Tyler Baze

Swill?

You're an idiot!!

Hopefully they can continue to "complete" at a high level.
Please tell me you only put Victor Espinoza on here because you have have letters in your first name in common. I can't and won't argue with the others but seriously, your two jocks are gonna put that dude out of business. He is horrendous.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:08 PM
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Please tell me you only put Victor Espinoza on here because you have have letters in your first name in common. I can't and won't argue with the others but seriously, your two jocks are gonna put that dude out of business. He is horrendous.
You better hope Drugs doesn't read that one. He's got some Espinoza stats that might make you change your mind.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:45 PM
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Joel finished 5th overall in North America last year and never once rode a race outside California. If the patient dies I'll be at bedside holding his hand.
BTW Vic riding in the Derby. Preakness, and Belmont doesnt suck...Hopefully we get to see Joel on dirt at CD in the fall.. Does he except mounts when the temp is under 60?
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:44 PM
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BTW Vic riding in the Derby. Preakness, and Belmont doesnt suck...Hopefully we get to see Joel on dirt at CD in the fall.. Does he except mounts when the temp is under 60?
Of course we are still weeks, works and races away. Joel does have what I feel are legitimate Oaks and Derby prospects in Crisp and Dave in Dixie. We'll see what the future holds.

Thanks for asking.

No thanks for the sarcasm.

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