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View Poll Results: Pick one - my general preference regarding this healthcare stuff is closest to:
No change to current system 9 20.93%
Tighten laws a little, but no essential change to current system 21 48.84%
I'm in favor of a public option 4 9.30%
I'm in favor of single payer for this country. 9 20.93%
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:28 AM
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Single payer? Naw, look at single payer! It's terrible! Canadians, the English and the French are falling like flies due to their terrible healthcare system. In the US, Medicare has killed off all the old people, they are dying in the streets due to the terribleness of single payer healthcare .... whoops.

The GOP says they are going to campaign this fall on repealing any healthcare reform passed.

If the GOP thinks that is the ready ticket to political and re-election success, then why don't they just step aside and let the Dems pass it?

our health care quality is a million times better than Canadians.. why do you think Canadians who can afford it come to America to get it?
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:42 PM
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our health care quality is a million times better than Canadians.. why do you think Canadians who can afford it come to America to get it?
Why do you think Americans can't afford their prescription meds and go to Canada to purchase them?
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Why do you think Americans can't afford their prescription meds and go to Canada to purchase them?
health care quality = cost of meds? really?
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:59 PM
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health care quality = cost of meds? really?
We could talk about all the elderly having operations in Mexico, because they can't afford healthcare in the US.

I stopped into a grocery pharmacy to buy some drugs for a friends sick barn cat today. Amoxicillin liquid $4. Amoxicillin-clavalunic acid (Pfizer's Augmentin in human terms, better for patient, been around forever, not much more expensive than amoxi in the animal healthcare arm of Pfizer drugs) was $40.

That's outrageous theft, pure and simple. To give one drug away with one hand, while behind the back with the other hand grabbing far more than both drugs together are worth.

Oh, yes, and that was the "professional discount" price, discounted off the price the client would have had to pay ($46) if the uninsured client purchased it herself.

Yes, I'd like an evil world of socialized medicine, where everyone pays $8 for Amoxi, and $12 for Augmentin.

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Palin Crossed Border For Canadian Health Care
First Posted: 03- 8-10 11:59 AM | Updated: 03- 8-10 12:26 PM

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin -- who has gone to great lengths to hype the supposed dangers of a big government takeover of American health care -- admitted over the weekend that she used to get her treatment in Canada's single-payer system.

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada," Palin said in her first Canadian appearance since stepping down as governor of Alaska. "And I think now, isn't that ironic?"
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We could talk about all the elderly having operations in Mexico, because they can't afford healthcare in the US.

I stopped into a grocery pharmacy to buy some drugs for a friends sick barn cat today. Amoxicillin liquid $4. Amoxicillin-clavalunic acid (Pfizer's Augmentin in human terms, better for patient, been around forever, not much more expensive than amoxi in the animal healthcare arm of Pfizer drugs) was $40.

That's outrageous theft, pure and simple. To give one drug away with one hand, while behind the back with the other hand grabbing far more than both drugs together are worth.

Oh, yes, and that was the "professional discount" price, discounted off the price the client would have had to pay ($46) if the uninsured client purchased it herself.

Yes, I'd like an evil world of socialized medicine, where everyone pays $8 for Amoxi, and $12 for Augmentin.
You are comparing the quality of medical care and the consumer cost of meds?
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:41 AM
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You are comparing the quality of medical care and the consumer cost of meds?

It's a spectrum of cost, some virtually nil. GIANT pharmacy gives away both Augmentin and Amox for some time now but the cost of meds otherwise in this country is much more complex than this.
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You are comparing the quality of medical care and the consumer cost of meds?
The quality of medical care and the cost of meds are completely interwoven. People who are on hundreds of dollars of meds per month, but cannot take them because they cannot afford to purchase them in the US (even with insurance, Medicare, etc), directly results in poor health care. When they have to leave this country to afford their medical care (their regular drugs) that's a sad, sad state of affairs.
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