Over/Under on Dominguez wins today

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

what did Dominquez screw your girlfriend or something? I dont get the hate?

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

what did Dominquez screw your girlfriend or something? I dont get the hate?

i don't hate the guy at all , he is a very good rider , maybe the best in the game right now maybe close to the best depending on who you talk to

but would you not agree with me that before it's over and we crown him he should win some of racing most important races - ie the TC races or BC races

are those races not the most important races in the country every year?


i can make an argument that todd pletcher is the best trainer in the country and all i hear on here is that he stinks because he is 0 for 30 in the derby , doesn't win eneough bc races - todd may train another 25 years or longer who knows, maybe before it's over he will win the derby many times and maybe ramon will ride some derby winners for him , but tell me why , if both of these guys have a long way to go in their career only 1 can be crucified on here for not getting it done at this point , that does not seem fair to me


why is ok to bash pletcher for his failure to date in these races and ramon gets off scott free

again am i to believe that without ramon on the "impossible" bluegrass cat , he would have finished up the track that day

happy birthday

[pgiaco]

I think since Dominguez can only ride one in each derby, and Pletcher can send out multiple horses in the race almost every year, Pletcher gets more criticism for his Derby record. For whatever reason, Ramon is not getting on the "big" horse in the TC and BC. Steve shows in Dominguez' BC runs, his horses outperform their odds. I just don't see how you can watch races and not see this guy's talent and appreciate how he goes about his business. Did you think John Elway sucked until he won a Super Bowl later in his career?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by pgiaco

I think since Dominguez can only ride one in each derby, and Pletcher can send out multiple horses in the race almost every year, Pletcher gets more criticism for his Derby record. For whatever reason, Ramon is not getting on the "big" horse in the TC and BC. Steve shows in Dominguez' BC runs, his horses outperform their odds. I just don't see how you can watch races and not see this guy's talent and appreciate how he goes about his business. Did you think John Elway sucked until he won a Super Bowl later in his career?

do you really believe that todd wanted to run all of those horses in the derby?

John Elway was a great player throughout his career, Dan Marino was better but he doesn't have 2 rings and that is a hole in his career resume

A-Rod is a great baseball player (maybe the best in the game over the last 10 yrs) , now he has a ring to go with it - he was hammered by the fans rightfully so because he didn't do it on the big days in the fall with either seattle or the yankees , this year he did it

Ramon is a very good rider , i keep saying that .....is todd not a very good trainer becuase he is 1 for 70 in the TC races , are all those training titles at the spa , belmont ,and elsewhere meaningless because he is 1 for 70 in TC races?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

do you really believe that todd wanted to run all of those horses in the derby?
John Elway was a great player throughout his career, Dan Marino was better but he doesn't have 2 rings and that is a hole in his career resume

A-Rod is a great baseball player (maybe the best in the game over the last 10 yrs) , now he has a ring to go with it - he was hammered by the fans rightfully so because he didn't do it on the big days in the fall with either seattle or the yankees , this year he did it

Ramon is a very good rider , i keep saying that .....is todd not a very good trainer becuase he is 1 for 70 in the TC races , are all those training titles at the spa , belmont ,and elsewhere meaningless because he is 1 for 70 in TC races?

Do you believe that Ramon thought that Sam P had chance to win ? Maybe he just took the mount, because he wants to evetually ride first call for Pletcher. Maybe he realized that he was lucky enough just to have an opportunity to ride in the big race. Maybe he though he really had a shot. Whatever the reason, but you have to be kidding me wanting to hold that over his head and count the fact that he couldn't bring home 43-1 Sam P and that's one of the reasons he's not an elite rider.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Do you believe that Ramon thought that Sam P had chance to win ? Maybe he just took the mount, because he wants to evetually ride first call for Pletcher. Maybe he realized that he was lucky enough just to have an opportunity to ride in the big race. Maybe he though he really had a shot. Whatever the reason, but you have to be kidding me wanting to hold that over his head and count the fact that he couldn't bring home 43-1 Sam P and that's one of the reasons he's not an elite rider.

no

You understand that you are ranting about races that equate to about .0042% of his mounts?

matt be so kind and tell me what the % is for todd - tc/bc starters vs all horses that todd starts - isn't it going to be less than 5% as well?