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View Poll Results: Pick one - my general preference regarding this healthcare stuff is closest to:
No change to current system 9 20.93%
Tighten laws a little, but no essential change to current system 21 48.84%
I'm in favor of a public option 4 9.30%
I'm in favor of single payer for this country. 9 20.93%
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:52 PM
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Yes, the dems are the enemy of the American people whether the American people realize it yet or not.
Get your gun! Run in fear for the hills! Demand to see the Kenyan birth certificate of our non-American President!

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yeah but you liked Carter.
Actually, no. I didn't like Carter. And I've said so on this board. Several times. Kinda tired of explaining it to you po' folk who can' read
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Actually, no. I didn't like Carter. And I've said so on this board. Several times. Kinda tired of explaining it to you po' folk who can' read

how can you like Obama and not like Carter when Obama is Carter to the power of 10?
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Tonight, Barack Obama will host ten House Democrats who voted against the health care bill in November at the White House; he's obviously trying to persuade them to switch their votes to yes. One of the ten is Jim Matheson of Utah. The White House just sent out a press release announcing that today President Obama nominated Matheson's brother Scott M. Matheson, Jr. to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.

“Scott Matheson is a distinguished candidate for the Tenth Circuit court,” President Obama said. “Both his legal and academic credentials are impressive and his commitment to judicial integrity is unwavering. I am honored to nominate this lifelong Utahn to the federal bench.”

Scott M. Matheson, Jr.: Nominee for the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
Scott M. Matheson currently holds the Hugh B. Brown Presidential Endowed Chair at the S.J. Quinney College of Law, University of Utah, where he has been a member of the faculty since 1985. He served as Dean of the Law School from 1998 to 2006. He also taught First Amendment Law at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government from 1989 to 1990.

While on public service leave from the University of Utah from 1993 to 1997, Matheson served as United States Attorney for the District of Utah. In 2007, he was appointed by Governor Jon Huntsman to chair the Utah Mine Safety Commission. He also worked as a Deputy County Attorney for Salt Lake County from 1988 to 1989. Prior to joining the University faculty, Matheson was an associate attorney from 1981 to 1985 at Williams & Connolly LLP in Washington, D.C.

Matheson was born and raised in Utah and is a sixth generation Utahn. He received an A.B. from Stanford University in 1975, an M.A. from Oxford University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, and a J.D. from Yale Law School in 1980.

So, Scott Matheson appears to have the credentials to be a judge, but was his nomination used to buy off his brother's vote?



Consider Congressman Matheson's record on the health care bill. He voted against the bill in the Energy and Commerce Committee back in July and again when it passed the House in November. But now he's "undecided" on ramming the bill through Congress. "The Congressman is looking for development of bipartisan consensus," Matheson's press secretary Alyson Heyrend wrote to THE WEEKLY STANDARD on February 22. "It’s too early to know if that will occur." Asked if one could infer that if no Republican votes in favor of the bill (i.e. if a bipartisan consensus is not reached) then Rep. Matheson would vote no, Heyrend replied: "I would not infer anything. I’d wait to see what develops, starting with the health care summit on Thursday."

The timing of this nomination looks suspicious, especially in light of Democratic Congressman Joe Sestak's claim that he was offered a federal job not to run against Arlen Specter in the Pennsylvania primary. Many speculated that Sestak, a former admiral, was offered the Secretary of the Navy job.
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how can you like Obama and not like Carter when Obama is Carter to the power of 10?
What a ridiculously inaccurate statement.
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The options here are essentially:

1) Complete crap
2) Nearly-complete crap
3) Nearly-complete crap poorly disguised as something that isn't crap.

4) Single-payer
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:29 PM
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The options here are essentially:

1) Complete crap
2) Nearly-complete crap
3) Nearly-complete crap poorly disguised as something that isn't crap.

4) Single-payer


Single payer? Naw, look at single payer! It's terrible! Canadians, the English and the French are falling like flies due to their terrible healthcare system. In the US, Medicare has killed off all the old people, they are dying in the streets due to the terribleness of single payer healthcare .... whoops.

The GOP says they are going to campaign this fall on repealing any healthcare reform passed.

If the GOP thinks that is the ready ticket to political and re-election success, then why don't they just step aside and let the Dems pass it?
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Single payer? Naw, look at single payer! It's terrible! Canadians, the English and the French are falling like flies due to their terrible healthcare system. In the US, Medicare has killed off all the old people, they are dying in the streets due to the terribleness of single payer healthcare .... whoops.

The GOP says they are going to campaign this fall on repealing any healthcare reform passed.

If the GOP thinks that is the ready ticket to political and re-election success, then why don't they just step aside and let the Dems pass it?

our health care quality is a million times better than Canadians.. why do you think Canadians who can afford it come to America to get it?
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our health care quality is a million times better than Canadians.. why do you think Canadians who can afford it come to America to get it?
Why do you think Americans can't afford their prescription meds and go to Canada to purchase them?
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