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Old 02-22-2010, 11:52 AM
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i'm a marty fan and with all the traffic he had right in front of him all night. i thought he played a heck of a game. look at all the odd-man rushes he faced and Started odd-mans in canada's favor. marty didn't play a bad game, IMO.
Darren, I was actually defending Marty. I don't think a goaltending change is warrented. I was responding to Dani's take on Marty's performance. Like I said, I think you can only fault him on one, maybe two of the goals.
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:57 AM
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Darren, I was actually defending Marty. I don't think a goaltending change is warrented. I was responding to Dani's take on Marty's performance. Like I said, I think you can only fault him on one, maybe two of the goals.
was trying to add onto yours. canada can't expect to get off 44 shots and not get MB hung out to dry.
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Old 02-22-2010, 12:00 PM
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was trying to add onto yours. canada can't expect to get off 44 shots and not get MB hung out to dry.
All the Canadiens are losing their s.hit. They all want to see Luongo start the next game. It's very comical.
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Old 02-22-2010, 12:12 PM
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Marty played as poorly as he could have. Hard to yank him in favor of Loungo, but another game like that and its over.

Germany is in trouble 96-1 may be a little light bob. Over under on Canada is 100

Team USA is probably the fourth best team talent wise in the tournament. Canada and the Russians, and the Sweds are probably better but they are pansies. If they get bronze they did well, silver will be unreal. Gold I think is out of the question after watching them play yesterday. Shoulda been 7-1
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Old 02-22-2010, 12:17 PM
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Marty played as poor as he could have. Hard to yank him in favor of Loungo but another game like that and thats it.

Germany is in trouble

Team USA is probably the fourth best team talent wise in the tournament. Canada and the Russians, and the Sweds are probably better but they are pansies. If they get bronze they did well, silver will be unreal. Gold I think is out of the question after watching them play yesterday. Shoulda been 7-1
After another game, there might not be a chance to make a change. I really don't know how you can pin 2 deflection goals on him. At some point you have to blame a few of the offensive guys for not finishing. There were a couple of breaks and most notably Nash missing a wide open net. Also, Canada should probably tip their hats to Miller who was just amazing. Sometimes you just run into a hot goalie and that's what happened last night.

I agree with you assesment of the US talent wise. Any medal would be a huge accomplishment (especially if Canada ends up off the board). You would think that they just don't have the firepower to stay up with those other teams, but like I said a hot goalie can carry you a far way. I'm looking foward to their next game, hopefully they will medal.
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Old 02-22-2010, 12:30 PM
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I thought the US looked extremely slow. If Tim Thomas played, any other goalie for that matter they get waxed. For the record I like Tim Thomas but that was a lot of shots to face.

I couldn't believe Nash missed that open net, I don't know how he did it. He shot the puck directly into Miller.

To me Canada looked like they were on a powerplay whenever the Heatly line was on the ice. Team usa was putting no pressure on the puck with that particular line. Anytime that line was on the ice I was holding my breath. Not only did they keep steady pressure on the US, the US couldn't even gain the line against them.

Team USA needs to fix that powerplay, and quick. They had a very difficult time establishing any kind of flow in the offensive zone. WHen they did they forced everything and it was quickly cleared.

As for pinning goals on Broduer....To me hes just much better than that. He got caught out of position twice, both times diving, or lunging at the puck. I don't know if hes gotten caught twice like that in his entire career. Not that I can remember.

I also thought team USA looked lost in their defensive zone. Their D is big and slow and thats not going to cut it unless Miller continues to play like the best to ever draw a breath
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Anyone watch the Sweden-Fin game? Haven't had a chance to read about it yet.
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I thought the US looked extremely slow. If Tim Thomas played, any other goalie for that matter they get waxed. For the record I like Tim Thomas but that was a lot of shots to face.

I couldn't believe Nash missed that open net, I don't know how he did it. He shot the puck directly into Miller.
To me Canada looked like they were on a powerplay whenever the Heatly line was on the ice. Team usa was putting no pressure on the puck with that particular line. Anytime that line was on the ice I was holding my breath. Not only did they keep steady pressure on the US, the US couldn't even gain the line against them.

Team USA needs to fix that powerplay, and quick. They had a very difficult time establishing any kind of flow in the offensive zone. WHen they did they forced everything and it was quickly cleared.

As for pinning goals on Broduer....To me hes just much better than that. He got caught out of position twice, both times diving, or lunging at the puck. I don't know if hes gotten caught twice like that in his entire career. Not that I can remember.

I also thought team USA looked lost in their defensive zone. Their D is big and slow and thats not going to cut it unless Miller continues to play like the best to ever draw a breath
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Darren, I was actually defending Marty. I don't think a goaltending change is warrented. I was responding to Dani's take on Marty's performance. Like I said, I think you can only fault him on one, maybe two of the goals.

it wasn't my take! lol i thought he did well to cut off the shots he did.
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it wasn't my take! lol i thought he did well to cut off the shots he did.
My bad D, I read your original post wrong. I apoligize.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/van...v=ap&type=lgns

now the canadians can blame luigi and not marty, b/c the blame surely wont fall on the players

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why isn't marc andre fleury getting the start?


as for the best player out there...i've been watching hockey since the caps started 35 years ago. i've never seen a player like ovechkin. he is a thrill to watch. you never know what he's going to do. hell, they broke his nose a few years back. what did he do? just score four goals that night.
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You gotta start Marty. That's a mistake

caps used to have a good goalie. Pete peters in 80s. Best offensive player u had prior to ovechkin probably cicarelli. My fav cap of all time. Dale hunter.
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You gotta start Marty. That's a mistake

caps used to have a good goalie. Pete peters in 80s. Best offensive player u had prior to ovechkin probably cicarelli. My fav cap of all time. Dale hunter.
I actually think that Bondra and Gartner were much better than Dino. But I let Dani pass the final judgement based on the fact that she's the Caps fan.

Hunter is on my list of top 5 scumbags that have ever played the game.
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You gotta start Marty. That's a mistake

caps used to have a good goalie. Pete peters in 80s. Best offensive player u had prior to ovechkin probably cicarelli. My fav cap of all time. Dale hunter.
just heard on espn radio, they are benching MB!
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You gotta start Marty. That's a mistake

caps used to have a good goalie. Pete peters in 80s. Best offensive player u had prior to ovechkin probably cicarelli. My fav cap of all time. Dale hunter.
yeah, i remember pete peters. but my favorite caps goalie ever is olaf kolzig. dino was a fan fave as well, never cared much for hunter. best caps player tho for years-rod langway. mike gartner was awesome as well-they retired his number, something i don't see happening with dino. i think everyone's favorite tho was peter bondra. i've seen him in the stands at a few games this year.
but ovechkin is simply amazing. if i had to use one word to describe him, it would be 'fearless'. that hit on jagr (former cap for a bit, would love to see him come back to the nhl-and bring federov with him!) the other day was incredible. guys have said jagr is and has been the hardest guy to get off a puck-alex made it look easy.
his goal (and the play he made to get the scoring opporunity) against montreal last year was amazing-but 'the goal' he got vs phoenix-you have to see it to believe it.
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