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Old 02-22-2010, 08:40 AM
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He's currently 5 for 5 and has the following mounts remaining:

7th Race #3 BOBS PINUP GIRL (5/2)

8th Race #4 LISTON (5/2)

Over/Under of 5.5?

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i heard the over under at tampa on sat was 1/2

great job on gio rat

rosemary hoiesmester - geezh ramon thought you were better than that , must have been out partying with scavs
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:42 AM
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i heard the over under at tampa on sat was 1/2

great job on gio rat

rosemary hoiesmester - geezh ramon thought you were better than that , must have been out partying with scavs

honestly the winner should have been DQ'd.. took GIO out like 6 paths! though it was much nicer to see Rosemary in the circle and Gio get beat, not that I have anything against Gio.

Fun day at Tampa on Saturday!
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:01 AM
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i heard the over under at tampa on sat was 1/2

great job on gio rat

rosemary hoiesmester - geezh ramon thought you were better than that , must have been out partying with scavs
What took you so long Marty?
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:15 AM
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Even Stevie Wonder could have seen that was one of the worst non-DQs in the history of the game.

Then again, I imagine Stevie Wonder watches a race considerably better than Gales.
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:37 AM
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Even Stevie Wonder could have seen that was one of the worst non-DQs in the history of the game.

Then again, I imagine Stevie Wonder watches a race considerably better than Gales.
what DQ????? she was buying him a hot dog and a beer, perfectly legit!!!...lol
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:48 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Dominguez didn't sell the DQ hard enough on the telephone. If he actually was dumb enough to tell the stewards 'there was never any contact with the winner, but I was floated out, it could go either way boss.'

I'm sure Homeister mentioned that Gio Ponti drifted in and when they came together and it was all mutual before she floated him out.

She also dominated him on the gallop-out - which could have helped sell an arguement that Gio Ponti was hanging like he did in his race against Interpratation.
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:57 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Dominguez didn't sell the DQ hard enough on the telephone. If he actually was dumb enough to tell the stewards 'there was never any contact with the winner, but I was floated out, it could go either way boss.'

I'm sure Homeister mentioned that Gio Ponti drifted in and when they came together and it was all mutual before she floated him out.

She also dominated him on the gallop-out - which could have helped sell an arguement that Gio Ponti was hanging like he did in his race against Interpratation.
Tell you after watching it the first time I thought he hung a bit as well.
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Old 02-22-2010, 12:35 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Dominguez didn't sell the DQ hard enough on the telephone. If he actually was dumb enough to tell the stewards 'there was never any contact with the winner, but I was floated out, it could go either way boss.'

I'm sure Homeister mentioned that Gio Ponti drifted in and when they came together and it was all mutual before she floated him out.

She also dominated him on the gallop-out - which could have helped sell an arguement that Gio Ponti was hanging like he did in his race against Interpratation.
He was drowning against Interpatation not hanging
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:38 PM
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Even Stevie Wonder could have seen that was one of the worst non-DQs in the history of the game.

Then again, I imagine Stevie Wonder watches a race considerably better than Gales.
geez your so funny , why not take a night gig at the comedy club on your way home , i'm sure you'll have them jumping out of their seats on the upper west side
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:37 PM
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Even Stevie Wonder could have seen that was one of the worst non-DQs in the history of the game.

Then again, I imagine Stevie Wonder watches a race considerably better than Gales.
While Gales' race watching skills suck, I think this horse justifiably was not taken down. I tried to make the point in the past that the cut of the grass on the TAM turf course is such that horses always come out in late stretch. This also has something to do with the fact that there's an open rail midstretch. In fact, if you watch the headon (of this or just about any other turf race at TAM), you'll notice that ALL the field drifts out during the end of the race. Of course, Homeister does her best to come out a bit more than necessary. Taking horses down for drifting out when the track takes them that way is really not a FAIR way to go, IMO. These stewards have shown the ability to 'let them play'.

For CLEAR cases of HERDING that's NEVER enforced, we need only look to your home track(s). What's the over under that the stewards take Castellano down at least once this year?
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:04 AM
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While Gales' race watching skills suck, I think this horse justifiably was not taken down. I tried to make the point in the past that the cut of the grass on the TAM turf course is such that horses always come out in late stretch. This also has something to do with the fact that there's an open rail midstretch. In fact, if you watch the headon (of this or just about any other turf race at TAM), you'll notice that ALL the field drifts out during the end of the race. Of course, Homeister does her best to come out a bit more than necessary. Taking horses down for drifting out when the track takes them that way is really not a FAIR way to go, IMO. These stewards have shown the ability to 'let them play'.

For CLEAR cases of HERDING that's NEVER enforced, we need only look to your home track(s). What's the over under that the stewards take Castellano down at least once this year?

and you can work the coat check for him and collect the tips at the comedy clubs so you guys have bullets for the track the next day

let me know when ramon wins a BC race or a triple crown race

1 for 50 or whatever it is ain't gonna cut it
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:21 AM
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let me know when ramon wins a BC race or a triple crown race
He already has. I don't get your fixation with trying to knock the individual who is almost universally acclaimed as the best rider on the East Coast and, unlike some of the other perceived top riders, is not a prima donna.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:10 PM
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He already has. I don't get your fixation with trying to knock the individual who is almost universally acclaimed as the best rider on the East Coast and, unlike some of the other perceived top riders, is not a prima donna.

so 1 for 30 or 40 or 50 whatever it is makes him the best rider in the country?

i don't have any personal feelings one way or the other about ramon

the bottom line is 1 BC win and no TC wins ---for him to cement his legacy he must win those races multiple times , the cream always rises to the top in those big races

outside of diehard racing fans on these types of boards or people at the track the general public has no idea who he is

people outside of racing knew Jerry Bailey , PAt Day, Chris McCarron etc - why because they won the most important races multiple times, it's time for Ramon to step up and win those big races
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:16 PM
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and you can work the coat check for him and collect the tips at the comedy clubs so you guys have bullets for the track the next day

let me know when ramon wins a BC race or a triple crown race

1 for 50 or whatever it is ain't gonna cut it
This is precisely why I'm so against figures.

(Someone elses') figures allow someone like you, who is absolutely cluless as to the nuances of the game, to hit every so often. Combined with the occasional TIP, this allows you to grow some nuts and come on here and try to debate **** with people that actually have a clue.

I mean, if it weren't to my advantage, I'd seriously tell you to stop betting. Your opinion SUCKS. Your comments transcend comical and border on retarded.

I write this with no animosity. Why the **** does someone like you bet? In the time you've been posting here you clearly haven't learned a thing when it comes to evaluating jocks or horses or how to correctly watch a race.

On the other hand, you, and the many other followers like you, are what makes the game beatable. Thanks for that.

And an even bigger thanks to BEYER.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:32 PM
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This is precisely why I'm so against figures.

(Someone elses') figures allow someone like you, who is absolutely cluless as to the nuances of the game, to hit every so often. Combined with the occasional TIP, this allows you to grow some nuts and come on here and try to debate **** with people that actually have a clue.

I mean, if it weren't to my advantage, I'd seriously tell you to stop betting. Your opinion SUCKS. Your comments transcend comical and border on retarded.

I write this with no animosity. Why the **** does someone like you bet? In the time you've been posting here you clearly haven't learned a thing when it comes to evaluating jocks or horses or how to correctly watch a race.

On the other hand, you, and the many other followers like you, are what makes the game beatable. Thanks for that.

And an even bigger thanks to BEYER.

How did BSF's get tossed into the conversation?
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While Gales' race watching skills suck, I think this horse justifiably was not taken down. I tried to make the point in the past that the cut of the grass on the TAM turf course is such that horses always come out in late stretch. This also has something to do with the fact that there's an open rail midstretch. In fact, if you watch the headon (of this or just about any other turf race at TAM), you'll notice that ALL the field drifts out during the end of the race. Of course, Homeister does her best to come out a bit more than necessary. Taking horses down for drifting out when the track takes them that way is really not a FAIR way to go, IMO. These stewards have shown the ability to 'let them play'.
For CLEAR cases of HERDING that's NEVER enforced, we need only look to your home track(s). What's the over under that the stewards take Castellano down at least once this year?
http://www.drf.com/news/article/111131.html
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