Quality Road's (negative) 7.5 fastest Thorograph fig ever

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I think a horses ability should be judged in relation to how horses at every other commonly run class level are performing.

If you believe that Quality Road's Donn was the single fastest performance ever run by a race horse ... you must also believe that claiming horses of today would routinely trounce great horses like Easy Goer and Sunday Silence with ease.

[tector]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think a horses ability should be judged in relation to how horses at every other commonly run class level are performing.

If you believe that Quality Road's Donn was the single fastest performance ever run by a race horse ... you must also believe that claiming horses of today would routinely trounce great horses like Easy Goer and Sunday Silence with ease.

Are the Thorograph numbers that whack? Obviously the speed figures aren't, but they don't purport to tell the story these numbers claim. Also, what about the Ragozin sheets--do they tell anything close to the same story as Thorograph?

PS: I have never used a sheet in my life, except to sleep.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

PS: I have never used a sheet in my life, except to sleep.

Never figured you for the bidet type.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by tector

Are the Thorograph numbers that whack? Obviously the speed figures aren't, but they don't purport to tell the story these numbers claim. Also, what about the Ragozin sheets--do they tell anything close to the same story as Thorograph?

PS: I have never used a sheet in my life, except to sleep.

I don't think they are whack - but the scale they are on is an aboslute runaway.

Ferdinand ran a 7 when he won the Ky Derby.

Alysheba ran a 6 and Sunday Silence ran a 6.25

By comparison ... Desert Party was 14th beaten 21.75 lengths behind Mine That Bird in last years Derby - and ran a 7.50

Recapturetheglory was 5th beaten 12 lengths in '08 and ran a 1.75. Anak Nakal was 7th beaten 15 lengths and ran a 4

Z Fortune was 10th beaten 19.5 lengths and got a 6.

Horses have become faster on the ragozin sheets - but not nearly as sharply.

[tector]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't think they are whack - but the scale they are on is an aboslute runaway.

Ferdinand ran a 7 when he won the Ky Derby.

Alysheba ran a 6 and Sunday Silence ran a 6.25

By comparison ... Desert Party was 14th beaten 21.75 lengths behind Mine That Bird in last years Derby - and ran a 7.50

Recapturetheglory was 5th beaten 12 lengths in '08 and ran a 1.75. Anak Nakal was 7th beaten 15 lengths and ran a 4

Z Fortune was 10th beaten 19.5 lengths and got a 6.

Horses have become faster on the ragozin sheets - but not nearly as sharply.

This article I found said they have lowered about 2 points in 10 years. I don't know if you can extrapolate that straight back say 35 years, but if you could, that would be a 7 point shift since the mid-70s. Seems pretty big!

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sta...-explained.pdf